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Old May 8, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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V10 Surges

Did a search and found nothing.

My 99 V10 surges while idling. It will surge from about 900rpm to over 1500 regularly, almost seems to be scheduled. It was doing this for a while a couple of months ago and before I got it to the shop it stopped. It was surging to over 2000rpms then.

I'd like to try ad get it fixed w/o taking it in, any suggestions?

Edit: Ha, I mastered the search function and found it! I'm thinking it is the IAC or PCV Elbow.
 

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Old May 8, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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surge is sometimes caused by the pcm adjusting the mixture up and down to compinsate for a lean mixture as you have found. i would start in 2 areas . 1 look for a vacume leak as you found and 2 replace the fuel filter as a cloged up one will also cause a lean mixture ,
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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Welcome to the site Ziess!

I think you are on the right track with the IAC & PCV. Let us know how it turns out.
 
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Old May 9, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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In order: Fuel filter, Air Filter, clean MAF, vacuum hose 90 degree elbow, IAC clean or replace.... actually I would do the first four then test it for the surging...if still there the IAC...if still there I would start thinking cam position sensor(CPS) or electrical grounds..the CPS is a rare item to crap out and it usually goes completly bad...but I have found one that had a piece of crud between it and the interupter that caused a lot of weird greif.
 
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Old May 9, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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Mine turned out the be the PCV elbow. Huge split in the hose. I would start there.
 
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Old May 9, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Ok, where exactly is the PCV elbow?
 
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Old May 9, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziess
Ok, where exactly is the PCV elbow?
The PCV is located on the # 1-5 cylinder side (passenger side) of the valve cover. The 90 degree hose is connected to the PCV.

If changing the hose, then IMHO...I would also change the PCV itself.

Hope that helps...

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Old May 9, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Well I couldn't see anything wrong with the hose or the valve. I guess next is the IAC.

Anyone care to tell me where that is located?

Also, how hard is the fuel filter to change?
 
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Old May 9, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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For the fuel filter take a look at this link...it should help. Not difficult at all...

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=487679

-->TIP: Either pull the fuel pump fuse and wait for engine to stop or remove the gas cap and let sit for 2 hrs. This releases the pressure in the fuel line.

As for the IAC...for me anyway...is to difficult to explain where it is. Would be better with a picture. Maybe someone will chime in soon...with a pic or location.

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Old May 10, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziess
Well I couldn't see anything wrong with the hose or the valve. I guess next is the IAC.

Anyone care to tell me where that is located?

Also, how hard is the fuel filter to change?
Ziess -- Take a look in my gallery. I have a complete removal and install of the IAC with pics.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...&albumid=22274

Hope this helps...

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Old May 11, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Had the exact same issue. Had my truck scanned and it listed the MAF, IAC or a vacuum line problem. Replaced a cracked PCV elbow and that solved my surging problem. Now my SES light has come back on and I am experiencing hard upshifts (sort of feels like a drag racing auto upshift). After having it scanned it says the MAF sensor is failing. Would this cause my hard upshifting and where would you guys recommend getting your MAF sensor from?
 
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Originally Posted by Ronin007
Had the exact same issue. Had my truck scanned and it listed the MAF, IAC or a vacuum line problem. Replaced a cracked PCV elbow and that solved my surging problem. Now my SES light has come back on and I am experiencing hard upshifts (sort of feels like a drag racing auto upshift). After having it scanned it says the MAF sensor is failing. Would this cause my hard upshifting and where would you guys recommend getting your MAF sensor from?
Before replacing the MAF sensor, I recommend cleaning it first with either electronics cleaner or Carb cleaner. Just because it is a lot cheaper. If that does not do it...then...

You could always go to the dealership, but NAPA has both NEW and Reman (core charge involved)...for reasonable pricing.

Good luck...

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Old May 11, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Thanks biz4two for the suggestion. I should have put in my previous post that we cleaned both the MAF and IAC when we had all that stuff off checking things out. Thanks for the heads up on the NAPA parts. Do they work as good as the Motorcraft parts? I am all for saving money, but not if I have to turn around and buy the same part two or three times.
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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In my own experience purchasing sensors from NAPA...they have all been a high quality product. Never have changed my MAF of IAC on my V10, but other FORD vehicles. All worked well...with no issues.

Maybe some other folks will chime in with their own experiences...

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Old May 11, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Again thanks biz. Do you think my hard upshifts are a result of the MAF or is there something else I should be looking for? No other codes showed up.
 
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