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Old May 10, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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For the money, it seems like a big gamble to go with the new guy. If it were so great, it seems to me that with all the guys on here the word would be out by know. I guess eventually someone will have to jump on the grenade for the rest of the team, but I know that right now I wouldnt do it without a LOT more info and tests done from a reputable tester.

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Old May 10, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Man, you guys can really get intense here. This isn't rocket science errr, well it sorta is. I would remind you all here that somebody had to be the FIRST person to buy the DP chip. That's right, it started somewhere. Before that the Predator was all the rage and before that etc etc. This just may be the next thing.

I'm intrigued by the advertised adjustment capabilities. Don't even try to tell me that you would rather send your chip back to tweak a shift point or line pressure and pay for that if you had the option of hooking up the laptop, making a change, and then go for a test drive.

As for specific PCM year/codes, it's all software revisions for a particular model. No reason why it couldn't be made available for download from a site and then tuned just for your vehicle.

All I am trying to say is I'm keeping an open mind. If this thing can deliver even most of what it advertises, and is executed properly, I say it will be like your own little custom chip burner in a tuner package.

Yeah, this may end up being a huge POS, or it could be the next thing. I will certainly be following this item, but like grunt said, I'm not going to take one for the team to find out.
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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I knew someone who bought a new motor after trying to tune his own chip. He got it better and better and better and Kaboom! The way I see it, unless I do some really heavy duty mods, I'd rather let the responsibility lie with someone else. I have brought a car 300 miles away for a dyno tune because I didn't want to futz with it. It took the guy 3 hours and would have probably taken me 3 months to learn the nuances of each of the variables. Since I wasn't going to be making changes daily, why bother? Now if I was changing stuff significantly, I would. If not, probably not
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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That is a valid point, hopefully there could be some failsafe built in. Hadn't thought of that.
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tenn01PSD350
That is a valid point, hopefully there could be some failsafe built in. Hadn't thought of that.
There was none. It ran better and better so he kept trying to improve it. Finally improved it by getting a new engine. The failsafe is the MAP sensor that defuels your engine. However, if you bypass that, I doubt there is anything in the ECM that would stop you since you control the ECM when you program it, logically speaking.
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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So what it sounds like is he needed a boost controller, or a specially made boost controller that will fool your map sensor into sensing 20 psi when it's at forty, with the option to be adjustable... maybe it's allready been made, I dunno, just coming up with Idea's here... When I get paid for spring planting I'll sink my teeth into this project and give you all some information, but first, I need to buy that 5 inch exhaust and the 6637...
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by aklim
I knew someone who bought a new motor after trying to tune his own chip. He got it better and better and better and Kaboom! The way I see it, unless I do some really heavy duty mods, I'd rather let the responsibility lie with someone else. I have brought a car 300 miles away for a dyno tune because I didn't want to futz with it. It took the guy 3 hours and would have probably taken me 3 months to learn the nuances of each of the variables. Since I wasn't going to be making changes daily, why bother? Now if I was changing stuff significantly, I would. If not, probably not
But what was he using to tune his chip? Did he have guages?
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sneak
So what it sounds like is he needed a boost controller, or a specially made boost controller that will fool your map sensor into sensing 20 psi when it's at forty, with the option to be adjustable... maybe it's allready been made, I dunno, just coming up with Idea's here... When I get paid for spring planting I'll sink my teeth into this project and give you all some information, but first, I need to buy that 5 inch exhaust and the 6637...
No, I would say that if you are going to take on this project, the very first thing you need is guages! It would be suicide to do it without them.
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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I know, I'll be buying a three guage A-pillar set, and I think I'll get another mount for a fuel pressure guage. Also I will be buying a mbrp 5 inch exhaust and a 6637. I will be doing these mods before I buy the programmer.

Edit: If someone who did not know about diesels got ahod of that, they could really screw up thier engine! Not saying I know all about diesels, but I hope I have educated myself enugh from growing up around them and reading all I can.
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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Talk to David Lott at Diesel Innovations in Houston, Texas. I read that he was using the Sniper Tuning on his race truck, Snow White, during his test and tuning. I don't know if he still uses it, as he has his own custom burn flipchip in it now. He could probably tell you more about Sniper.
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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I saw him as a sponsor, but I did not know that he had used it. Tha is a great idea! I'll try and call him or email him in the next few days.
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sneak
But what was he using to tune his chip? Did he have guages?
This was for a GM 350 engine where they have all the sensors and it shows up what the readings are. The problem was that he missed out something and took it too far because he didn't know what a certain limit would be.,
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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I'm not sure how much I can say since I'm not a advertiser on this site, but we do sell the Sniper products (along with other brands) and it does work very well. For the vehicle's we have done, the Special Forces has lived up as advertised. You really do have control of the areas mentioned. On another note, if you're afraid of harming your vehicle, there are some precautionary steps that have been implemented into the software. I'm not saying it's impossible to harm an engine but it would be difficult. Also, there are "preset" performance tunes included in the software (50, 75 & 100 hp) if you're nervous about making your own performance files.
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Ah! Thank you for your educated contribution and support to the debate! I had figured there would be some sort of safety precautions.

I am going to try and get ahold of David Lott.
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by webmaster
Actually, one of the programmers for Sniper used to work for Diablo. The jury is still out on it and we're in the process of doing a review article for it. The software is, so far, very easy to use once you get it installed.
When do you think that review will be available for us to read?
 
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