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Old May 7, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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Copper Plugs?

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I am replacing the plugs in my Aerostar, 4LT. At Ford they have two plugs listed. PP and C Plugs, both the same heat and spects. I am asking has anyone used the copper ones? In my ford book they have both listed for my van, an the sticker has PP. Both ford dealers recommend the copper, due to the age and cost.
PP plug -11$ each
C plug - 3$ each
 
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Old May 7, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Use the double platinums copper plugs won't last as long and trust me after you replace the two rear plugs you'll want to have as long a stretch until they need to be replaced as possible .

The Aero is very finicky about the plugs you use and I have never seen any specs stating you should use anything less then double platinum.
 
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Old May 7, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Use the double platinums copper plugs won't last as long and trust me after you replace the two rear plugs you'll want to have as long a stretch until they need to be replaced as possible .

The Aero is very finicky about the plugs you use and I have never seen any specs stating you should use anything less then double platinum.
I know they only have a 80K rating for the copper and 120k for the platinum ones.
Ford has both listed for the 4LT Aerostar. But at 3$ a piece it's a ggod price. My Aero is easy to change the rear ones.
 
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Old May 7, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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the Ford 4L has an extra HV high current multi fire spark from it's EDIS coilpack that is death on standard plugs, eats the tips off....you'll only get 20-30k miles on the copper core standard steel tip and the center electrode will be eaten away to the insulator on one bank and the ground electrode will be worn away to uselessness on the other side
only double platinum or iridium in these Ford multi coil packs
never have seen the platinums loss any tip metal, the gap does open up though after 100k miles to 0.070" or more from the ground electrode bending from heat and combustion....i've regapped them on other Fords and good to go for another 100k miles
 

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Old May 7, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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well i would go with copper if they are easy for you and 3.00 each is a rip. go get a set of autolites same as motorcraft and they only cost 1.49 each or 2 for 2.19 at some walamrts with large car sections or you can get single platinum plugs from napa or kragen for 2.99 each

www.kragen.com
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Old May 7, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 96_4wdr
the Ford 4L has an extra HV high current multi fire spark from it's EDIS coilpack that is death on standard plugs, eats the tips off....you'll only get 20-30k miles on the copper core standard steel tip and the center electrode will be eaten away to the insulator on one bank and the ground electrode will be worn away to uselessness on the other side
only double platinum or iridium in these Ford multi coil packs
never have seen the platinums loss any tip metal, the gap does open up though after 100k miles to 0.070" or more from the ground electrode bending from heat and combustion....i've regapped them on other Fords and good to go for another 100k miles
You are correct, but for the wrong reasons. Ford's EDIS IS NOT multifire, but the plugs do fire on every revolution of the crank, twice as often as a conventional ignition. Two plugs fire together in series, making the effective
plug gap 2X, which requires higher voltages.
 
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Old May 7, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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well i would go with copper if they are easy for you and 3.00 each is a rip. go get a set of autolites same as motorcraft and they only cost 1.49 each or 2 for 2.19 at some walamrts with large car sections or you can get single platinum plugs from napa or kragen for 2.99 each

www.kragen.com
www.rockauto.com
www.napaonline.com
Here in Canada you can only get Motorcraft, no Autolite here. 3$ is cheap. PP plugs go for 10-25$ each. My wife's Explorer plugs are 20$ each. wires are 185$.
Also sticker on my has two plugs listed, PP Cdn 42s and PP US 32s. Ford of Canada as PP42sand C42s listed for Canadian 4lt.
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 03:09 AM
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If Ford actually installed different plugs at the factory (platinum center on one side and platinum ground on the other) and you take them out and regap them to put them back in, I guess you would have to put them back into the same side that they came out of.

If you bought double platinum plugs, used them for 100K+ miles, would you see any significant wear? If so, can you regap them and install them into the opposite sides so the current flowing the other way might redeposit the worn away platinum back onto the electrode that lost it? Just a thought...I think platinum still costs 3x of gold.
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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I agree copper plug will not last long. And with the labor involved in changeing them, I would highly recommend a longer lasting plug. Also, if they don't work right, you will quickly pay the difference in cost in increased fuel consumption. Also, increased carbon build up from poor combustion is not good for the engine.
 
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Well Fellas
I broke down and pickedup the PP Plugs, I got them for 8$/plug. It was with our military discount.
 
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