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Old May 1, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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tinsel strength....

Hey fellas, I need to know where I can find tensel strength of a 2ft. peice of 3"x 3/16" angle iron.
I am building 2 cradles to suspend a cylinder that will weigh just under 1000 pounds.
And I am thinking of using a 2ft peice and gusseting it with a peice of plate steel for the cradle. I just need to know if the angle will hold atleast 600 pounds or more or if I need to get some 1/4" angle for this.

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Old May 1, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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Nope, I'd use 3/8" stuff, especially if there is any side-play ine the assembly. Angle is very weak in that application, but still stronger than two piece of flat stock welded together.
 
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Old May 2, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Well, we pulled this thing outof the crate and it couldnt weigh more than 200or300 pounds,
that means no more than 500 loaded.
We cut 2 peices and have one side across jackstands and the other with the engine hoist and some chain connected at the end. Also, I won't need to gusset anything cause the cylinder has feet built into it.
 
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Old May 2, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Assuming A36 steel with a yield strength of 36000 PSI, you have an allowable max tensile stress of 0.60 * 36000 or 21600 PSI.

A piece of "angle" might have a dimension of 3" x 3" with a thickness of 3/16 inch.
This is (3+3) * (3/16) = 1.125 sqaure inches. The max allowable pure tension load, assuming dead weight and no vibaration is 24300 pounds. This assumes no holes drilled into the angle.

But I don't think this is the figure you want. Instead, you want to know if it will support the weight of the cylinder in a beam bending application. A 3x3x3/16 steel angle has a moment of inertia of 0.961 in**4.

Assuming a 2 foot span and a point load of 1000 pounds in the center.

The formula for beam deflection for this loading condition is:

Delta Y = F * (L ** 3) / (48 * E * I)

or 1000 * (24 * 24 * 24) / (48 * 30000000 * .961) = 0.01 inch (at the midpoint)

L/360 for this span is 0.067 inch

The section can easily support your proposed load.

Because of its asymettry, angle is subject to lateral/torsional buckling, hence the comments about weakness and the importance of controlling side-sway. At heavier loads, it is important to provide bracing to prevent out-of-plane buckling.

If the cylinder is to be operating whilst on this cradle, rather than just static weight, then it is important to design in a significant safety margin.
 
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Well, the saddles on the cylinder will be bolted to the angle then 2 1/2 holes drilled for 1/2" allthread to sespend it in an equipment room. I is static axcept for water and freon that moves throught it. We were mainly worried about the vibration of the earth as we want it to last atleast a 100 years.
It is alcually a chiller vesil for air conditioning an old church, the old one has to many leaks.
 
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Old May 2, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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For that sort of application, I'd use 2" 3/16" wall square tube, with the holes reenforced.
 
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