can i use a remote start?
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Maybe a signal is sent from the vehicle onboard computer to tell it to stop cranking.
In which case a non-computer controlled vehicle won't supply, unless it can get that from the Duraspark II I/M.
Maybe read this ?
http://www.commandoalarms.com/itmidx10.htm
I don't have time right now.
I've used Rattler 569D (Rattler is made by D.E.I., same company that does Viper & Valet) in the past and love the unit (good range & works well). I've currently got one in my '01 car & will probably install one in my 1977 sometime in the future (my trucks been garaged the last 4 years which is why I haven't already. Running truck + enclosed space = bad
Truck's already got keyless entry & I've still got a couple of extra 569D units laying around).I'm not a fan of Audiovox.
Price depends on where you buy it (Best Buy vs ebay) and who's going to install it (yourself vs shop).
Install is harder than a stereo but still pretty straight forward. I don't know why in the world you'd need to connect it to a onboard computer?? Basically the remote start just turns the key for you. It's got a couple of power feeds that go to your acc/coil wire & another one that goes to your start wire. It'll feed a constant 12v to your coil & will give 12v to your starter wire until your truck is started.
The three ways I know they get feedback to when your trucks is started is:
1. Time ("cranks" the engine for a set time and assumes it's running)
2. Voltage (Measures system voltage, alternator turning = engine turning)
3. RPM (RPM will jump from "starting" RPM to "running" RPM)
The whole "remote start doesn't work w/ carbs" is so the company who makes the remote start doesn't have to take a bunch of calls from people who don't understand the remote start won't pump the gas pedal along w/ "turning the key".
REMOTE START WILL WORK W/ YOUR CARB'ED VEH IF YOUR VEH STARTS WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN TURNING THE KEY.
How the does the remote system know the engine has started and to stop cranking the starter?
My EFI Lincoln was hard starting a few weeks ago.
It just kept cranking & cranking until is stopped by itself.
Yet, when the engine starts,the starter stops cranking right away.
How would it know to stop unless it got an electronic signal from something ?
Instead of Upper Case (considered yelling) you can use code to highlight certain points.
How the does the remote system know the engine has started and to stop cranking the starter?
Time & RPM are the two main ways for a remote starter to work. The remote starter usually uses voltage to determine if the engine has started.
1. Time - You can set it to crank... say 1.2 secs. Generally a car/truck in good condition will take roughly the same amount of cranking time to start everytime. If 1.2 secs is too long/short you program the remote starter to decrease/increase cranking time.
In my case the "stock" cranking time was too short for my car, I increased the cranking time .2 secs and it starts everytime.
2. RPM - You connect the remote starter as a tach. It cranks until the engine hits the desired RPM. A "cranking" engine and a "running" engine have different rpms. ;-)
3. Voltage - More to let the remote start know it worked. It "remote starts" the car/truck. Waits 5 secs, does a Voltage check, if the voltage is below threshold it tries again 15 secs later (Or so... probably depends on remote starter, I think mine waits 15 secs & tries again up to three times... not really sure about this since it works the first time
)Pretty much to run a remote starter the only thing the Car/Truck needs to supply is a 12v power source.... hardly need a computer for that!
It just kept cranking & cranking until is stopped by itself.
Yet, when the engine starts,the starter stops cranking right away.
How would it know to stop unless it got an electronic signal from something ?
If it is a factory remote start it could be connected to the computer to receive something.... I'm not saying a remote starter can't receive info from a computer... I'm just saying it doesn't HAVE to receive this info to work.
The only input from your truck a remote start system needs in order to work is a 12v input.
Granted, if your remote starter was set up w/ only a 12 v input it would have failed to start your car when it was hard starting (or, if you increased crank time to compensate it would have ground your flexplate when it started correctly).
However, back to the myth of needing EFI for a remote start, it's simply not true. The only thing you need is a 12v input and a Truck that starts when you turn the key without needing to pump the gas. (Assuming it starts in roughly the same amount of time each time... which I take for granted in a well maintained truck) (And yes, I did NOT say you needed an Automatic... again most companies will say you do so they don't get sued by stupid people, but remote starts can and do work in "stick" trucks... and while we're clearing up what you can and can't do... you can also install them in diesels
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It seems that if you richen up your idle mix some it would start easier. maybe? am I wrong here?
Richen...enrich..... is richen even a word?
Last edited by wintremute; Apr 30, 2006 at 01:58 AM.







