Blending agents,panel paint question
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Blending agents,panel paint question
Hey guys....I have a question a bout blending agetnts and what works good.
I have a few little patch panels to replace on a little car>
I will have to attemtp to blend into the existing finish which is a base/clear finish
I prefer to use dupont products but am looking for others that you have had good luck with
I have never blended before,I usually just redo the whole panel in question,but there are no obvious breaks or edges that I can cut off the repair finish at....price is a consideration on this job
..people obviously don't realize what it takes to do a good job I suppose...I'm not particular on the price or what it will cost them,if they want it done properly,then they will have to pay...simple as that
Aslo,any advice and tips or tricks will be greatly appreciated as well
The vehicle in question is a 95 Cavalier,and is rotted at the lower front rear quarter just in front of the rear wheel...simple fix,just the darn refinishing is my problem....Plus I need to learn how to blend anyway,time saver and cost effective as opposed to repainting an entire side of a vehicle....
Thanks
I have a few little patch panels to replace on a little car>
I will have to attemtp to blend into the existing finish which is a base/clear finish
I prefer to use dupont products but am looking for others that you have had good luck with
I have never blended before,I usually just redo the whole panel in question,but there are no obvious breaks or edges that I can cut off the repair finish at....price is a consideration on this job
..people obviously don't realize what it takes to do a good job I suppose...I'm not particular on the price or what it will cost them,if they want it done properly,then they will have to pay...simple as thatAslo,any advice and tips or tricks will be greatly appreciated as well
The vehicle in question is a 95 Cavalier,and is rotted at the lower front rear quarter just in front of the rear wheel...simple fix,just the darn refinishing is my problem....Plus I need to learn how to blend anyway,time saver and cost effective as opposed to repainting an entire side of a vehicle....
Thanks
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A little tip.......since you're not painting the whole panel, when you tape off the surrounding area for the primer & base coat, roll the tape back so the sticky side is curved toward your repair. This will help to keep any drastic lines from forming.
The only Blend I've used is PPG brand and it was on a couple of missed spots about 2 weeks after the original painting was done. The stuff worked great.
I don't know how Blend works on older paint jobs, but I would love to hear your results since "somebody" (a/k/a my Hubby) messed us a few spots on the inside dash when he was tightening down some trim screws.
Good luck and please let us know how it turns out.
The only Blend I've used is PPG brand and it was on a couple of missed spots about 2 weeks after the original painting was done. The stuff worked great.
I don't know how Blend works on older paint jobs, but I would love to hear your results since "somebody" (a/k/a my Hubby) messed us a few spots on the inside dash when he was tightening down some trim screws.
Good luck and please let us know how it turns out.
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Thanks for the reply.....I am just gonna head down and research a few products.
Usually when I paint,I do completes....I am curious to do a spot repair,I wish I would have learned it a few years back,but just never had the right job come along.
Been a while since I have painted anything as I usually do it as a hobby now....
I will keep ya posted on the job and how it progresses in the paint stages...bodywork is a snap as I have been doing it for about 10 + years now...just the spot repair painting that has me confused cause I never stayed up to date on the new products that have came out...LOL
Usually when I paint,I do completes....I am curious to do a spot repair,I wish I would have learned it a few years back,but just never had the right job come along.
Been a while since I have painted anything as I usually do it as a hobby now....
I will keep ya posted on the job and how it progresses in the paint stages...bodywork is a snap as I have been doing it for about 10 + years now...just the spot repair painting that has me confused cause I never stayed up to date on the new products that have came out...LOL
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I know every painter has their own ways of doing this. .. heres mine...
when we have to do a 'blend' we will clear the whole panel, on places where you cant do just the panel (like a qtr or roof) I'll use a coarse buffing compound to give the new paint a 'tooth' to stick too.
Do your color blend, get it close in color then with each coat cover more of the panel with paint. Usually a few inches past your last coat.
When you clear the panel do it as your normally would. In the case of the roof, or qtr panel (that has been scuffed with rubbing compound) clear up about halfway, with each coat of clear go a little farther past your last coat, when your finished with you last coat clean your paint gun.. after its clean, add some reducer to the cup and go in and LIGHTLY spray the edge to help the new lay out (your thinning it slightly)
After its dry.. you will have to do a little hand rubbing to make the line go away.
If you want photos the next time we do one at the shop, i'll get you some photos.
Hope this helps!
when we have to do a 'blend' we will clear the whole panel, on places where you cant do just the panel (like a qtr or roof) I'll use a coarse buffing compound to give the new paint a 'tooth' to stick too.
Do your color blend, get it close in color then with each coat cover more of the panel with paint. Usually a few inches past your last coat.
When you clear the panel do it as your normally would. In the case of the roof, or qtr panel (that has been scuffed with rubbing compound) clear up about halfway, with each coat of clear go a little farther past your last coat, when your finished with you last coat clean your paint gun.. after its clean, add some reducer to the cup and go in and LIGHTLY spray the edge to help the new lay out (your thinning it slightly)
After its dry.. you will have to do a little hand rubbing to make the line go away.
If you want photos the next time we do one at the shop, i'll get you some photos.
Hope this helps!
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Perfect.....exactly what I was looking for....pics would be awesome when ya get a chance,but your description was excellent...thanks very much 
Originally Posted by 4starcstms
I know every painter has their own ways of doing this. .. heres mine...
when we have to do a 'blend' we will clear the whole panel, on places where you cant do just the panel (like a qtr or roof) I'll use a coarse buffing compound to give the new paint a 'tooth' to stick too.
Do your color blend, get it close in color then with each coat cover more of the panel with paint. Usually a few inches past your last coat.
When you clear the panel do it as your normally would. In the case of the roof, or qtr panel (that has been scuffed with rubbing compound) clear up about halfway, with each coat of clear go a little farther past your last coat, when your finished with you last coat clean your paint gun.. after its clean, add some reducer to the cup and go in and LIGHTLY spray the edge to help the new lay out (your thinning it slightly)
After its dry.. you will have to do a little hand rubbing to make the line go away.
If you want photos the next time we do one at the shop, i'll get you some photos.
Hope this helps!
when we have to do a 'blend' we will clear the whole panel, on places where you cant do just the panel (like a qtr or roof) I'll use a coarse buffing compound to give the new paint a 'tooth' to stick too.
Do your color blend, get it close in color then with each coat cover more of the panel with paint. Usually a few inches past your last coat.
When you clear the panel do it as your normally would. In the case of the roof, or qtr panel (that has been scuffed with rubbing compound) clear up about halfway, with each coat of clear go a little farther past your last coat, when your finished with you last coat clean your paint gun.. after its clean, add some reducer to the cup and go in and LIGHTLY spray the edge to help the new lay out (your thinning it slightly)
After its dry.. you will have to do a little hand rubbing to make the line go away.
If you want photos the next time we do one at the shop, i'll get you some photos.
Hope this helps!
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Hi Scott, long time no chat 
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Have you ever used the stuff called Blend that we were talking about? It basically melts (blends) the the new and old clear coats to a seamless finish. Pretty cool stuff.
If so, what brand have you worked with?
.Have you ever used the stuff called Blend that we were talking about? It basically melts (blends) the the new and old clear coats to a seamless finish. Pretty cool stuff.
If so, what brand have you worked with?
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If you are going to do a clear coat blend make sure you use an adheshion promotor otherwise your clear will eventualy peel. If you like to use dupont you need 222 adheshion promoter and spray it over the area that you are blending and just a little past your sand scratches were you want to blend the clear. Dupon recently came out with their clear coat blending solvent 19301 in an arosol can and this stuff is great. With a little practice you wont even need to buff the blend.
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Hey 66, welcome to FTE.
The blending solvent in the aerosol can is what I was talking about, but in PPG. I discovered it a little over a year ago - and yes, it is great stuff.
The blending solvent in the aerosol can is what I was talking about, but in PPG. I discovered it a little over a year ago - and yes, it is great stuff.
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...wow...just did a read up on that stuff...sounds phenominal...gonna nab some tomorrow...I have a 97 ford that I have to touch a few dings up,this will be my test vehicle with this product 
Originally Posted by 66 twin i
If you are going to do a clear coat blend make sure you use an adheshion promotor otherwise your clear will eventualy peel. If you like to use dupont you need 222 adheshion promoter and spray it over the area that you are blending and just a little past your sand scratches were you want to blend the clear. Dupon recently came out with their clear coat blending solvent 19301 in an arosol can and this stuff is great. With a little practice you wont even need to buff the blend.
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