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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Sway Bars

What is the benefit of these?I will be using a M11 front susp on my 48 F1.Do I really need to use a sway bar?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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A sway bar is made to twist. If you study how they are mounted, each end is always mounted on the lower a-arm. The middle of the bar is mounted to the frame with large rubber bushings.

The bar can twist easily in the large rubber bushings on the frame. So if you are going down the road straight, and both wheels hit a bump, the bar moves in the frame bushings with no resistance, so the bar has no affect on the ride.

But, let one wheel go down in a pot hole, and the other one stays on good level road. In this instance, one end of the bar will drop, the other will not. The bar will try to resist the wheel dropping down in the pot hole.

You will also notice this in a high speed turn. The outside wheel will tend to compress upward into the fenderwell. The wheel on the inside of the turn will be losing the weight of the vehicle, so that wheel will tend to drop out of the wheel well. The sway bar will try to resist this difference from side to side, keeping the truck more level in the turn.

The thicker the bar, the more it resists the side to side difference on each wheel.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 06:42 AM
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Correct.

Now for the rear. If you have a 4 link with a panhard, and coil overs, is a sway bar necessary?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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Correct.

Now for the rear. If you have a 4 link with a panhard, and coil overs, is a sway bar necessary?
I had a 29 Ford Sedan a few years ago with a triangulated 4 bar and panhard bar with coilovers. It had so much body roll in turns that the rear tires would rub the fenders even with a MII front suspension with a front anti-sway bar. This problem disappeared after installation of a rear anti-sway bar. So, I'd say based on that you would probably want one to improve handling. It will stiffen the ride some too. Be sure that if you add one that you also have a front bar. Running a rear anti-sway bar only is not a recommended practice...

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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Be sure that if you add one that you also have a front bar. Running a rear anti-sway bar only is not a recommended practice...
On this same note, always make sure the front bar is larger than the rear. If the rear is more "planted" in the road because of a stiffer rear bar, then the car will have a tendency to swing the rear around in a turn. What the NASCAR guys call "loose".

The factory designs most all cars with a "push" in the front, since it's easily correctible by hitting the brakes, something most people naturally do when they are getting ready to lose control in a turn.
 
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Dave,

That's interesting. I didn't know any better so I used a stock MII bar in the front on my 29 and a larger diameter aftermarket one from Progressive Automotive in the rear. The car handled very well and never seemed to want to come around on me but I drove it like a little old lady. Perhaps I was just lucky...

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