NOOB question on trans removal
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NOOB question on trans removal
Hi All.
Newbie here, just got a ford truck as well. It's an older F-250 with a bad flexplate and a bad starter, new ones came with the truck. Question I have is this: How much of a PITA is it to remove a 4X4 trans? I have done quite a few 2WD jobs, both GM and Ford, but never a 4X4. Any comments on this would be appreciated.
thanks.
Brian.
Newbie here, just got a ford truck as well. It's an older F-250 with a bad flexplate and a bad starter, new ones came with the truck. Question I have is this: How much of a PITA is it to remove a 4X4 trans? I have done quite a few 2WD jobs, both GM and Ford, but never a 4X4. Any comments on this would be appreciated.
thanks.
Brian.
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It sucks. 
You will probably have better luck if you drop the t-case entirely. Then it becomes a lot like a 2wd tranny. The t-case doesn't weight as much as you'd think. It's not like the old cast iron ones that weigh 300 lbs dry.
You will probably have better luck if you drop the t-case entirely. Then it becomes a lot like a 2wd tranny. The t-case doesn't weight as much as you'd think. It's not like the old cast iron ones that weigh 300 lbs dry.
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I took a peek under there, and it looks like the transfer case is attached directly to the trans? If I drop the front and rear driveshats and the crossmember, is there any reason (after unbolting fron the engine, that I couldn't just move the thing a few inches back and replace the flexplate without making an enormous project of it?
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the last one I did with the transfer case attached I ended up using three floor jacks to support the tranny and case it's really an unbalanced load (the tranfer case is trying to twist the tranny) if you have some way to support it it works but it's a bugger removing the tranfer case is no big deal
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the floorboards will not give you enuf room to pull it back. Drop the t-case, then tranny. If you have enuf patience, drop the crossmember, but beware that that is a PITA to put back in. If yer just talking the thin metal plate between the trans and engine, I'd just cut the bent part out pound it flat and put it back in...this is what shims the starter. If the flywheel teeth are stripped, you can but a replacement ring for a bit cheaper than the whole thing.
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Well I ended up just moving the trans back and replacing the flywheel. I reinstalled the trans, put a new starter in there, and it seems like the flywheel is too small. The start gear does not engage the flywheel correctly and it squeals like a bi*ch. Also, it seems like this flywheel has a different offset and is smushing the converter into the trans as it's hard to turn. And yes, I did make sure (a few times) that the converter was all the way back.
How far should the converter move back from the flywheel when it's unbolted?
How far should the converter move back from the flywheel when it's unbolted?
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It will usually move back just far enough to almost clear the studs...almost.
Did you compare flexplates before you exchanged them? Did you use an stick shift starter instead of an automatic version (this changes over time)?.
It sounds like something isn't right...you should go back to ground -0- and compare the parts you replaced.
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Did you compare flexplates before you exchanged them? Did you use an stick shift starter instead of an automatic version (this changes over time)?.
It sounds like something isn't right...you should go back to ground -0- and compare the parts you replaced.
Kenny
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No I didn't compare them, and that is where I messed up. I did push the trans back and shim it back about 1/8 with washers and it fires right up, so my guess is that the flexplate has a different back spacing. I did buy a new one, and it is a copy of the old one. Lesson learned.
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