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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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Ok new here and wondering something, I have a 2001 F250 7.3 and a buddy of mine has a 2003 F350 6.0. I understand I have a 4r100 tranny and he has a 5r100 tranny. Question is whats the diffrence between the 2. Any and all help would be great.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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The 5r100 has the "torque shift" feature that they put behind all 6.0's. I have one of the last 7.3L's built in 03 and it has the 4r100. What the exact difference is, someone else will have to chime in here.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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For starters, the number of gears. The torque shift tranny has 5 gears vs 4 gears in the older tranny. The torque shift tranny has a higher torque rating & has a tow/haul mode which, depending on load and road conditions will tow in overdrive & hold the gears longer. The torque shift tranny also locks the TC more often (Even on slowdowns - in tow/haul mode).

The greater number of gears seems to make the truck a bit quicker by keeping more in the power band.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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Got it, thanks. Knew I could the answer here. Have a good day.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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I gotta ask, will the 6.0 transmission retrofit into the 7.3. Would it be worth it or just have mine properly rebuilt. I know I'm not happy with my OD gear on the interstate with no load, I would prefer lower rpms at 75 mph. Is it any better with the 6.0s?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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The 5R110 will not mate to the 7.3L. An adaptor could be built, but that will cost almost as much as rebuilding a 4R100. Then you'd have to create a computer to run the 5R110. The computer that the trucks use needs to control a 6.0L and 5R110 together to be able to work. Short answer, it can't be done.

Also, the OD ratio is 0.71:1 in both transmissions.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Basically, same answer as Casey. I would doubt the possibility of a retrofit because of the PCM/computer/programming compatability factor. A 6.0L PCM would be different than the 7.3L PCM.

In terms of the RPM factor, I would not assume that it would be lower as the 6.0L has a reasonably higher redline.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tenn01PSD350
I gotta ask, will the 6.0 transmission retrofit into the 7.3. Would it be worth it or just have mine properly rebuilt. I know I'm not happy with my OD gear on the interstate with no load, I would prefer lower rpms at 75 mph. Is it any better with the 6.0s?
If you really want to lower them in O/D, I would consider a gearvendors unit or re gearing the diffs. I agree though, would be nice to cruise 75 @ 1900 rpm or so. Maybe even lower but I am sure there is a point where it would be too low and negate any mpg advantages.
 
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I here good things from everyone here about Jody's tunes and how he adjust shift points in his tunes and wonder if he can write programs to do a retro fit? I think I like the ideal of haveing another gear.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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I here good things from everyone here about Jody's tunes and how he adjust shift points in his tunes and wonder if he can write programs to do a retro fit? I think I like the ideal of haveing another gear.
I doubt it. I figured the coding would be the problem all along. Didn't figure on the big physical mounting differences. Can't overcome gearing in OD with a chip. If/when mine gets rebuilt, maybe there's a gear in my future.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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if you want lower rpm's on the freeway then just add a gear vendors
 
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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I think I need a differant gear inbetween 2nd and 3rd on hard pulls because I run out of power in 3rd and have to slow down below 45mph to go into 2nd.My gearing to power is off alittle. Maybe a few power mods would make the differance I am looking for.My truck is stock 2000 F-350 DRW 4X4 with 4.10 rearends and 235 tires.
 
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