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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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351 5.8 performance rebuild

I'm going to be doing my first rebuild in the near future after I join the airforce, since I'm new to actually getting into the engine and putting together compatible parts for the best performance. I was just going to rebuild the stock engine and bore it ove .30. would that make it a 357? I also wanted to put new heads, intake, camshaft, on it and wanted to know what would be the best combination in your opinion, while keeping the computer working and emissions happy. I was looking at the Performer 5.8 intake, and not sure about the heads. should i go with 185cc? And what's the largest lift on a cam i can have without the computer not knowing whats going on.

I already figured out what I want for the more simple parts to upgrade, ignition and exhaust and what not. Should I have the transmission rebuilt with performance parts or just buy a brand new complete performance one. do they make a stall torque converter for the e4od?. I just wanted advice on what would be a good build up for the bronco so I dont go buying parts that end up not complimenting each other. I'm looking for torque mostly. what all steps should i take to get a nice powerhouse engine that would last a decent amount of time and not get 5 miles to the gallon. I'll be doing some offroading but usually just a daily driver and people always try to race me at redlights so i would like to start beating those bitch *** hemis.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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MIght wanna post this up in the 5.8 section, they would probly help you more.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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well there few options because of the speed density computer but dont be scared. for a cam you have 2 choices. 1 compcam 35-255-5 pretty much is max for the computer or call cammotion and have a custom ground cam (little expensive) for even better performance. the edelbrock efi truck intake would be a great option along with a bbk 56mm throttlebody. Heads are also cool , the afr's are awesome and the 185's would work great. they may move your power band up the rpm range a little bit but that is ok . the edelbrock performer heads may work better to keep the power lower in the rpm range. you can also run up to 9.5 compression on 87 octane which will give ya a bit more grunt to. if you go custom grind let them know what your doing with the motor and how its to be driven and specify its a speed density controlled setup.

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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would i have to convert to mass air flow to go with a bigger cam or is there some sort of chip i can tune the computer with, or what's the deal on that. would that cam take away from the potential of the heads and intake and all the other mods.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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converting to mass air would give more options on cams for sure. that cam i suggested might not fully use the potential of the afrs but would work great with the edelbrocks. a chip wouldnt fix this issue with our applications im affraid. But if you concider going mass air, why not think about stroking that motor to a 393 or 408. with those heads you would put down some reall good numbers and the mileage would still be decent mainly because the motor doesnt work as hard to move that heavy bronco. the 357 is a good build as well.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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what's the deal with the computer for the 393. what cam would you reccomend for that setup also. i had thought about getting a loan and shelling out the extra money to stroke it but then i figured i would have to put a 9" rear end and other upgrades as well.

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I check out 94F150-408's gallery with his 393 to get an idea on the kind of upgrades I would be looking at. I probably won't be installing it myself since I'll be busy with the damn air force on base all the time. I also saw you mention a kennebell supercharger a year ago to a guy wanting to do the same thing. what kind of power increase would i see on the 357. My manager at Oreillys a while back is rebuilding an old buick with and dropping in a 502 with a turbocharger and I bet him my bronco would beat it one day so I can't back down. Although his will be done this year and I'm looking at the next 4 years as a timeframe. If i want to get really crazy and get an even bigger loan would it be possible to turbo/super charge the 393? by then I will just be using the truck for fun and not as a daily driver.
 

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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My manager at Oreillys a while back is rebuilding an old buick with and dropping in a 502 with a turbocharger and I bet him my bronco would beat it one day so I can't back down. Although his will be done this year and I'm looking at the next 4 years as a timeframe. If i want to get really crazy and get an even bigger loan would it be possible to turbo/super charge the 393? by then I will just be using the truck for fun and not as a daily driver.
You might have some trouble to beating that Buick. First, he got a little over 100 extra CID, and for simplicity, I count that as 100 extra HP. Then the Buick is probably a little lighter and closer to the ground, so unless he agrees to a race through a corn field or somesuch , you're DOA, IMHO.

To have at least a fighting chance in a drag race, I think you should start with a 460 (or maybe a V10). If I were you I'd just back down, or race a more suitable car.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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yeah i figured i'd be left behind he said he would be pushing 600+ horses to start out, maybe if he gave me a 50 yard head start. but really if i was gonna be racing anyone its always the new hemi's that try to race or other jacked up blazers and broncos, sometimes diesels. i tried racing a cobra but the guy just laughed and took off. all my friends out in the boondocks have their trucks tricked out and race them at the track in kennedale so i wanted to be able to keep up with them. hustle a few kids thinking they got a bronco in the bag.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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fordfuelinjection.com has all kinds of info regarding efi. go on line and get as much info as you can regarding stroker build ups. with it done right n/a the 393 will put out over 400lb of torque to the wheels which is big hp will not be to far off that either. if you wanted to sc or turbo the motor you start going into a totally different type of engine build and i can get very very expensive.
 
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