Redline oil specs?
Thread Starter
|
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,600
Likes: 4
From: Iowa
Redline oil specs?
My dad just bought a new 2006 F150 Super Crew with the 5.4L engine. To make a long story short, I'm looking for an oil to run in it. Normally I would just run Mystik and be done with it, but since they dont make a 5w20, that's not really an option. I'll probably run a conventional like Citgo's 5w20 which I know meets Ford's spec, but I ran across something while researching.
I was looking at the Redline oil site, during the 5 minutes I thought I might just run synthetic in it (a moment of weakness). I didn't see anything about it meeting any specific manufacturer requirements. So I sent 'em an email:
I have a new 2006 F150 with the 5.4L engine. The manual states that the oil must meet Ford spec WSS-M2C930-A. Does your 5w20 meet this spec?
Here is the response I got:
Thank you for contacting Red Line Oil, the Red Line 5W20 would meet the Ford engine oil specification.
The part that has me concerned is the word "would." This implies that either:
1. It doesn't meet the spec, or
2. They didn't bother to have it tested.
Not that this really affects me, but I thought it kind of odd. Anyone have any comments or more information?
I was looking at the Redline oil site, during the 5 minutes I thought I might just run synthetic in it (a moment of weakness). I didn't see anything about it meeting any specific manufacturer requirements. So I sent 'em an email:
I have a new 2006 F150 with the 5.4L engine. The manual states that the oil must meet Ford spec WSS-M2C930-A. Does your 5w20 meet this spec?
Here is the response I got:
Thank you for contacting Red Line Oil, the Red Line 5W20 would meet the Ford engine oil specification.
The part that has me concerned is the word "would." This implies that either:
1. It doesn't meet the spec, or
2. They didn't bother to have it tested.
Not that this really affects me, but I thought it kind of odd. Anyone have any comments or more information?
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,914
Likes: 1
I have never seen an API certification on Redline oils. Their website is rather evasive about it as well. The best wear metal numbers that I have gotten with my Triton is with Havoline 5w-20. It is a blend of dino and Gp III with about half the amount of moly that Redline has- about 400ppms. This is a lot considering that moly is fairly expensive to put into a formualtion. It would be my pick of the bunch including the boutique synthetics. Sorry I couldn't help more. Maybe Tallpaul can help as he runs it in his Ford Aerostar (I think it is).
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
From: North Alabama
Redline probably has not been tested against the Ford spec. With that said, the internals of every engine I've ever seen, that ran Redline exclusively, looked as clean as new.
I wouldn't run RL in a truck under warranty, but once out of warranty, I wouldn't hesitate to use it, price notwithstanding.
I wouldn't run RL in a truck under warranty, but once out of warranty, I wouldn't hesitate to use it, price notwithstanding.
Last edited by wavinwayne; Apr 5, 2006 at 06:14 AM.
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 5,860
Likes: 4
From: Metro Detroit (Redford)
I'm suprised they didn't add their little warning not to run the Redline the first 3000 miles. Wavinwayne has it. Unless you can forward Redline's response to the Ford dealer and get an okay from them, you probably should stick with an oil that definitely meets the spec, just so they have absolutely no excuses to deny a warranty claim.
The Redline in the Aerostar seems to be doing fine, but haven't done a UOA on it.
The Redline in the Aerostar seems to be doing fine, but haven't done a UOA on it.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,821
Likes: 19
From: South Dakota
I've got nothing against Redline, but I'd have a hard time buying the stuff when you could pick up some Penzoil Platinum 5w20 Synthetic for $3.98 a qt (which I'm currently experimenting with in my 5.4L, and does meet the Ford spec). I know that they are two different formulations.
FWIW here's a UOA from my F150 with MC 5w20, I'm sure that you've looked at it, but here it is anyway.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=478630
FWIW here's a UOA from my F150 with MC 5w20, I'm sure that you've looked at it, but here it is anyway.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=478630
Last edited by superrangerman2002; Apr 5, 2006 at 10:52 AM.
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,344
Likes: 12
From: Sioux Falls SD
Trending Topics
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,821
Likes: 19
From: South Dakota
Yeah, I'm going to try to extend my OCI's, it's getting really old changing the oil every 3 weeks (I like to do it, but I've got loads of other stuff to do usually).
From what I've read, I just don't think that any synthetic blend will make the 10k mark.
I figure if I can get PP to make 10K, then cost wise it would be the same as changing out MC 5w20 two times in the same interval. Even if I could get PP in the 8500 mi range it would still be close enough for me to consider doing on a full time basis. If I can get more, icing on the cake.
Since MC 5w20 is $2.07 a qt and PP is $3.97, it would all wash out less one oil filter for the PP extended OCI.
At 5K, Ill pull a small amount out and send it off for a UOA. Right now it's wishfull thinking untill I get a UOA back.
From what I've read, I just don't think that any synthetic blend will make the 10k mark.
I figure if I can get PP to make 10K, then cost wise it would be the same as changing out MC 5w20 two times in the same interval. Even if I could get PP in the 8500 mi range it would still be close enough for me to consider doing on a full time basis. If I can get more, icing on the cake.
Since MC 5w20 is $2.07 a qt and PP is $3.97, it would all wash out less one oil filter for the PP extended OCI.
At 5K, Ill pull a small amount out and send it off for a UOA. Right now it's wishfull thinking untill I get a UOA back.
Last edited by superrangerman2002; Apr 5, 2006 at 10:03 PM.
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)
Michael S. Palmer
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
