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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Sticking wastegate??

I am trying to figure if my wastegate or EBV are sticking so that they are not fully opening. Here is the situation....over the course of some time I have noticed that when the truck, especially when under load with a trailer, seems to have increased EGT's. When you first start the truck the EGT run comparably to where they always have. When driving the truck, without a trailer, you occasionally notice the EGT going up but not coming back down as fast. Then with a trailer, especially in OD at low RPMs say 1500-1700, you notice the EGT's go much higher than normal, up to 1200 or so, and not come down near as fast as they used to when you get out of the accel pedal. Using logic, I am thinking there is a block in the exhaust end someplace which would account for the EGT' sgoing up but coming down very slowly. If you take the OD off when the EGT's climb they come down to 900 in short order but don't go lower. There also seems to be a lack of power in OD at low RPM's. Any thoughts????
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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Are you proceeding along on mostly level ground with some very slight rises in the terrian in OD with the cruise control on when that happens?
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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Kwik,
Just the man I wanted to see!! I can recreate it basically at any time. If I have a 5000# trailer it is the easiest. If I am in OD, without cruise, all I need to do is give it some gas without it kicking out of OD. The EGT goes to 1200 or higher if I let it in a flash. So of course I let off the gas and they come down extremely slow! It just seems like at most times the EGT is 100-200 higher and then this circumstance. It is not the temp probe because it will run at normal temps when I let it idle for maybe 5 min or more. It just seems like it can't get rid of the exhaust gas anymore?? Thats my thought anyway. You??
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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So are we talking an EBPV that is mechanically stuck??
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Jerrod,can u fill out your Signature info? Need more info.
What about your boost levels? Turbo problem maybe. Need that cooling
cooling air.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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PSNut is on to something. Need a boost reading. And need to know your truck's configuration.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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Boost levels are running the same as they normally were, but the turbo seems to possibly be working a touch harder under load. It still generates teh 22-25 pounds when it drops down under load. As far as configuration it is a F-250 with 168K on the ticker and many of the standard mods including chip, tymar, 4" exhaust, fuel tank mods, and those types of things. Thoughts?
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerrod
Boost levels are running the same as they normally were, but the turbo seems to possibly be working a touch harder under load. It still generates teh 22-25 pounds when it drops down under load. As far as configuration it is a F-250 with 168K on the ticker and many of the standard mods including chip, tymar, 4" exhaust, fuel tank mods, and those types of things. Thoughts?
U can pull out the Exhaust backpressure sensor and check for soot buildup and
blow the line out with air.Disable the EBPV by disconnecting the sensor it will default the EBPV open. Tie wrap the sensor connector somewhere for safety.
Hope this helps.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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What if it is "mechanically" stuck?? For example carbon build up that is actually limiting the physical movement of the butterfly?

Am I on the right track with it beingthe EBPV or is it possibly something else? Lots of miles so I am sure things are going to wear out.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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What if it is "mechanically" stuck?? For example carbon build up that is actually limiting the physical movement of the butterfly?

Am I on the right track with it beingthe EBPV or is it possibly something else? Lots of miles so I am sure things are going to wear out.
Pop off your down pipe clamp and look inside.Doubt it would be stuck from soot build up.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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Can you not check for movement of the valve without dropping the downpipe? I seem to remember reading you can tell by the direction of the lever where linkage hooks up.
 
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I think the exhaust impeller is in the way.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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Kwik,
I was referring to a post from the past when I suggested that you may could check externaly. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...highlight=EBPV.
I am probably wrong, I am still trying to learn from you guys, but don't this pic that you posted and I borrowed show how to check and see if it is open or closed????


 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Kwik,
I was referring to a post from the past when I suggested that you may could check externaly. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...highlight=EBPV.
I am probably wrong, I am still trying to learn from you guys, but don't this pic that you posted and I borrowed show how to check and see if it is open or closed????

That's the EBPV (exhaust back pressure valve)
Your wastegate lever is on the top of the turbo. Unless you don't actually have a wastegate like a van turbo.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerrod
What if it is "mechanically" stuck?? For example carbon build up that is actually limiting the physical movement of the butterfly?

Am I on the right track with it beingthe EBPV or is it possibly something else? Lots of miles so I am sure things are going to wear out.
I thought that he was asking about the EBPV. Sorry if I misunderstood.
 
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