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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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going to be getting my first welder. Is this a good welder? Thanx.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=6271

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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for the price, doesnt look to bad. just remember, you usually get what you pay for. should be ok for small things.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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what do you mean by small things? i need one that i can make bumpers with.

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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well it says up to 120 amps, now if it will actually get up that high and hold it there, you should be ok. if your looking to do things like big bumpers, you might look into an arc instead.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chrono4
well it says up to 120 amps, now if it will actually get up that high and hold it there, you should be ok. if your looking to do things like big bumpers, you might look into an arc instead.
Hold it there...? That is the question. It has a 15% duty cycle so, for 1.5 minutes out of 10, yes, you can. If I was a hobbiest welder I would look for one with a duty cycle of at least 30%.

If you want a hobbiest welder, look into the Hobart Handler's.
 

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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what i was saying, it with somthing like a bumper, you may run one bead, which usually isnt a minute and a half long, and then you prep and clean and repeat.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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A hobart wouldnt me much better than that. Miller bought out hobart so they are basically the same welders now, just the hobarts use a lot cheaper interior parts... from what I heard at the local welding shop. Personally, Id save and get a miller. We once had a Lincoln that was about the same as wher you are looking at with that Chicago Electric, only the lincoln had a longer duty cycle. We couldnt even get it to spark on 1/2" steel with the ground 2 ft down the metal rod...

We got rid of that Lincoln that weekend, now we have a Millermatic 210, and if it were a girl Id consider dating it.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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A hobart wouldnt me much better than that. Miller bought out hobart so they are basically the same welders now, just the hobarts use a lot cheaper interior parts... from what I heard at the local welding shop. Personally, Id save and get a miller. We once had a Lincoln that was about the same as wher you are looking at with that Chicago Electric, only the lincoln had a longer duty cycle. We couldnt even get it to spark on 1/2" steel with the ground 2 ft down the metal rod...

We got rid of that Lincoln that weekend, now we have a Millermatic 210, and if it were a girl Id consider dating it.
It's been a while since I have even looked at the Hobart Handlers, but there was a time when they were one of the best for Hobbiests. As far as Miller owning them, that has been the case for quite some-time.

I'm I die hard Miller guy and own a number of their products. I have a Millermatic 251, and I am very pleased with it.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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> Welding current range: 30-120 amps

This means it is useful for 1/8" thick (12 gauge) metal and nothing more. Fillet welds on 1/8 metal might not come out that well. It is not suitable for making bumpers if you are going to use anything thicker then 1/8 wall material. For a 230V welder, it is vastly inferior, imo.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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well, any bumpers i make will certainly be thicker than 1/8" can you suggest a good/easy to use welder for under $400? preferably under $300? thanx.

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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You should look for a used miller if you wont be using it a whole lot...
 
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by r0n1n
well, any bumpers i make will certainly be thicker than 1/8" can you suggest a good/easy to use welder for under $400? preferably under $300? thanx.

-jason
For what you want to do with it, and your price range, an arc welder is the better choice unless you look for a good used deal as suggested.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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you can find a working arc for 75-150 bucks if you look.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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I have some friends that weld for a living and a few like the hobarts more than the miller. One conviced me and showed me there is no difference the parts.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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I think there was a thread on weldtalk and it said hobart makes the HH140 and miller makes the rest.It also said hobarts enginnering dept. designed alot of the millers.I have a HH140 and love it.There isn't many deals on ebay for used migs.People run the price up.Just buy a cheap arc welder.
 
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