400 upgrade advice needed
I am looking for advice, or opinions from those that have done similar things in the past, so want to provide you with as much info as needed to make informed decisions, yada yada yada
The truck in question is a '79 F-100. The 400 is a transplant (code translates to a '72 Galaxie) and was rebuilt (not by me) in stock configuration (possibly .030 over) with approx. 40k miles on it since. The bottom end appears to be in good shape with 161 - 168 psi in all cylinders on the compression test and consistent oil pressure with no leaks or smoke.
The problems are in the top end.
I need a new carb, plain and simple. The truck wasn't being driven, so the good carb was "donated" to a family member who needed it more than me. The replacement is a ca. '67-'68 Motorcraft 2bbl that even after 2 rebuilds won't tune right. And I would prefer a 4bbl.

There is also a problem with the right side head...the one that the alternator bracket bolt screws into...or in my case, where the bolt USED to screw into. Now it's broken off inside the head, and repeated attempts to extract it with the head on the engine have resulted in an extractor bit breaking off in the hole as well!
So the head(s) must come off...may as well have them worked over while off, right? I am also looking at a replacement (Edlebrock or Weiand) manifold/carb set from Summit Racing, and probably headers as well.
The truck has been sitting for about 6 months, and had less than 5,000 miles put on it the year before that. The time has come, however, for it to become a (almost)daily-driver again, or get rid of it to free up storage space.
So now after that essay, we finally get to my question(s) for you................
Given the above scenario, what else would you consider doing/replacing? Are there any pitfalls you see coming my way?
Heads: Obviously I need the bolt removed from the right, and the hole retapped, but what else? I would like to reuse my rockers, if possible. What is considered "mandatory" when having head work done, and what is considered "optional"? Excuse my ignorance, but I have never had to take heads to a machine shop before. I want to keep costs down, and remain in the stock area of performance, but want to do it right.
Carb/Manifold: I'm pretty much sold on the combo including air filter assembly from Summit Racing. From the reading/research/common sense I've applied so far, I gather the 600cfm carb is the correct choice, given the mostly stock configuration. Yes?
Any pro vs. con opinions on the Weiand/Edelbrock/Summit choices?
Headers: This is really only an option if the cheap ones work. My stock manifolds are in good shape, so the headers are more of an afterthought with some performance in mind. ANy thoughts on the Dynomax "blackjack" headers for $180 from Summit?
Thanks again for any words of wisdom you provide.
I reused my rockers with no trouble. Summit sells a shim kit that you may need if any valve seat work is done. I leave the head decisions to a pro recommended by car guys I trust. So far it's worked for me.
There is nothing mandatory. People run trucks with knocking rods and all sorts of issues. Naturally that's not recommended. If the engine has 40,000 on a decent rebuild, there are no funny noises, and the oil has not been contaminated the bottom end should be fine. Don't touch it and you'll save several hundred dollars.
You can get a edelbrock performer intake for $70 on ebay. You can get a new cam and lifters(maddog like mine for example) for $99 on ebay. Any carb assume it will need a rebuild. Edelbrock carbs do seem to hold a tune better and have fewer daily issues as compared to Holleys. 600cfm is a good number.
Headers put a lot of heat under the hood and may have fit issues. Stock exhaust manifolds are restrictive in upper rpms, but not noticable in the normal driving rpm range. I'd wait for later. A low restiction exhaust system will benefit you more than headers in daily driving.
My modifications are a Edel 600cfm carb, performer intake, maddog cam, non-retarded timing chain, and dual exhaust with flowmasters. I get 11mpg driving the speedlimit or 5 over. I also run a 10.2 ET in the 1/8 mile, even with my 2.75 rear gear. Not lightning quick, but fast enough to give stock rice burners fits.
Have you smoked a Datsun today? (I love the growl when it takes off!)
Last edited by derherr65; Mar 30, 2006 at 12:08 PM.
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I run them on all my vehicles that have carbs and NONE of them require daily, weekly, monthly, or even yearly adjustment. Even the THREE 2 bbls on my 331 ran perfectly for over a year without ONE adjustment. The few times I've even thought about touching them, I did a little investigation into the rest of the engine's tuning, and EVERYTIME, there's been something else other than the carb that was amiss. The carbs didn't need any adjustment. Y'all are doing something wrong. The only moving parts on a Holley are the throttle shafts and accellerator pump, Once you PROPERLY TUNE a Holley they'll stay that way, there's nothing to wear in daily use that would cause it to fall out of adjustment. Idle mixture screws don't move , once set. Jets don't either. Keep it fed with clean, water free fuel and it'll run as good as new, for years till the throttle shaft bushings wear out.
Last edited by derherr65; Mar 30, 2006 at 10:42 PM.
I run them on all my vehicles that have carbs and NONE of them require daily, weekly, monthly, or even yearly adjustment. Even the THREE 2 bbls on my 331 ran perfectly for over a year without ONE adjustment. The few times I've even thought about touching them, I did a little investigation into the rest of the engine's tuning, and EVERYTIME, there's been something else other than the carb that was amiss. The carbs didn't need any adjustment. Y'all are doing something wrong. The only moving parts on a Holley are the throttle shafts and accellerator pump, Once you PROPERLY TUNE a Holley they'll stay that way, there's nothing to wear in daily use that would cause it to fall out of adjustment. Idle mixture screws don't move , once set. Jets don't either. Keep it fed with clean, water free fuel and it'll run as good as new, for years till the throttle shaft bushings wear out.




...would make my job alot easier...lol..