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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Personally, I worry about any kind of problem in a vehicle I own. I check for recalls monthly.
Nothing wrong with that, although I must say, If it's broke fix it. If it's not totally broke, fix it yourself and it will be.

I've actually made the fusible harness's that Ford has been installing into these vehicles and put them on a few of my buddies' F-150's. I wouldn't let them take their vehicles to the dealership to have a high school drop out touch their vehicles while still trying to master the older points engines.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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I could see it, only if it were possible!. Unless the moronic driver slammed it in park while moving at about 50 clicks, and then turned the key back to lock the wheel.
Don't own an auto, so can't comment there, but on the manual vehicles I own, the steering column will lock if you turn the key off and rotate the steering wheel more than about 30degrees...

Irrespective - I don't care how good a driver someone is, a sticky throttle is potentially fatal.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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I agree with ya, it's potentially dangerous. I just always like to be optomistic! Appologies for posting 3 times in a row, wish I knew how to quote 3 people in one post...

Most manual vehicles here have a "lock" on the column, that you have to push down to bring the key back to the lock position. Not sure if brand new vehicles have that or not? But I do know that even new automatics HAVE to be placed in park to have the key in the lock position.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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i really dont see how honda engines are so much better then any other motor, even in atvs, or dirt bikes. Ok, my dads yammaha beartracker had water, freeze in the combustion camber. We waited for it to melt out, turned the motor over with no sparkplug , and it fired up after about 10 crank upon putting the sparkplug back in. Also there was no damage done to the engine afterwards. See, i think just about any motor can take abuse. Also honda supposed "v-tec" is a joke, and dosent add that much horsepower. Which is why alot of cars dont have that, or a version of it in there engines.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fordxfour87
Also honda supposed "v-tec" is a joke, and dosent add that much horsepower. Which is why alot of cars dont have that, or a version of it in there engines.
Its not the technology side of it that adds horsepower... Its the STICKERS!!!

For the excape, get a throttle return spring, but the kind that goes under the pedal. Usually in the HELP section of the store. If not, just ask the ppl

~Nate
 
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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Yep a sticky throttle is a big time problem. And depending on the shut down proceedure it could be very to do anything about it. For instance on my Vette the only way to turn the motor off to put it in netrul or park. I'm betting that most of the newer cars are this way. The vette does not have steering lock but my truck does and with the wheels in a straght direction it will lock right away.

Anyway this thread itself moves the bias perception IMO. Where is the outrage? If this was about the PSD everyone would be saying Ford is doomed.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tmyers
Anyway this thread itself moves the bias perception IMO. Where is the outrage? If this was about the PSD everyone would be saying Ford is doomed.
We seem to have a lot of the "other" members on this board...I was wondering the same thing. Your example is spot on....if this had of been anything Ford related, everybody would have jumped on board the criticism jet.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Im gona go slap some v-tec stickers on my bronco now... . LOL
 
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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Heard there was a brake switch fault on fords, that when the seal in this switch went, the whole switch cuaght fire, setting the entire truck on fire as well.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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I prefer a sticky throttle. It adds that much needed sense of adventure to my life...
 
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fordxfour87
i really dont see how honda engines are so much better then any other motor, even in atvs, or dirt bikes. Ok, my dads yammaha beartracker had water, freeze in the combustion camber. We waited for it to melt out, turned the motor over with no sparkplug , and it fired up after about 10 crank upon putting the sparkplug back in. Also there was no damage done to the engine afterwards. See, i think just about any motor can take abuse. Also honda supposed "v-tec" is a joke, and dosent add that much horsepower. Which is why alot of cars dont have that, or a version of it in there engines.
Have you ever driven a Honda Car? If you're comparing your Yamadog Bearslacker (Sorry, had one, didn't like it, put too many top ends in it) to a Honda car, you're comparing apples and oranges. Honda car engines run, and run, and run, with minimal maintenance. I live around Marysville, which is where the majority of these vehicles are made, and they are EVERYWHERE. Everyone has em, and even with 250,000+, they still run like brand new. Honda can build one hell of a car engine.

Now to quads, since you brought it up, the Honda Fourtrax 300 (made here in Marysville) was in my opinion the toughest quad every built. Do you know why they were discontinued in 2001? Because people were selling their early 90's models for $3000- $3500. Honda wasn't making any money on them, because the old ones were just as good as the new ones. You can go up to any of these quads when its 20 degrees outside, and fire them up without choking them. We have 2 of them on the farm, one is a 91 4x4 and the other is a 96 2wd, and we changed the original oil in it in early 2003. There was literally dirt in the oil, no joke. Still runs like a top.

Ok since now I'm way off topic, I want to let EVERYONE here know that I am all for Ford's. I would probably never own anything but a Ford Truck. I stick up for Honda because I know how they work. I know probably 100 Honda workers (girlfriend will be joining the crew in the summer) and I see how things are built quite often. Girlfriend's Dad is the Parts Quality manager at the Marysville plant, and I often go into the plant with him.

One more thing about Honda's. I often see people say they are Japanese junk. But the thing is, the engines are made in Ada, Ohio. Manifolds are made in a factory around Marion, Ohio. These cars and parts are built/assembled in the USA. Only downside is, Japan gets a lot of the profit.

Ok, I'm done with my speech. Ya'll have a terrific weekend. I'm going to fuel up the ol Ranger and head to southern Ohio to see the girlfriend at college! I'll be back Sunday night.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Sticking throttle is serious business. I remember I had a 60 Pontiac Catilina with the 389. Taking off from stop, it took off like a rocket and the pedal went to the floor. I tried to pull the pedal back, but did no good. So I turned the engine off and coasted that sucker off the side of the road. It was scary to say the least.... What happened was one of the motor mounts broke which is typical for GM during those years.


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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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No, i wasnt compareing quad and cars. I was only stateing that any company today makes an engine that runs and runs and runs, pretty much.

I only menchined the beartracker as an example as what it went through with NO damage to the engine. i wasnt comparing it to anything, only stateing that pretty much any engine weather its from, honda yamaha or whatever can take ALOT of abuse. to be honest, i beat the living crap out of mine every day i could ride it. I revved it as high as the engine could go in the first gears, the thing was SCREAMING. The only problem was the carb, which i blame muiki ( however that carb companys name is spelt).
So i got an 89 suzuki carb and slapped that one which only rammed more air and fuel down it throat. Im pretty sure i didnt even break in the motor when i got the danm thing. Yet it ran as good the day i sold it as it did the day i got it. Reliable, but not sporty. ( unless its me driving it, i drove it like it was a raptor LOL)

Honda isnt the only car that lasts over 200,000 without problems. Hell, look at the bronco II. They have had flaws from factory, with head cracking, and poor valve train lubrication....yet most last over 200,000 running WITH problems. Lets see a honda run that long with poor valve lifter lubrication. Mine has 130,000 slightly ticks which get quited up with thicker oil, NO smoke at all, and it starts without even holding the starter for one second.

Take care of it, and it will run.


hope you have fun on your trip
 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Well...... IM BACK!

I agree with your comment on companies building engines well. Seems today they are pretty tough. I still think that some will run longer than others with equal neglegence in maintenance.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fordxfour87
Honda isnt the only car that lasts over 200,000 without problems. Hell, look at the bronco II. They have had flaws from factory, with head cracking, and poor valve train lubrication....yet most last over 200,000 running WITH problems. Lets see a honda run that long with poor valve lifter lubrication. Mine has 130,000 slightly ticks which get quited up with thicker oil, NO smoke at all, and it starts without even holding the starter for one second.
No offence but the 2.9 is an embarrassment of an engine. It's a pile of garbage from an engineering stand point and hitting 200K with a half dead engine isn't exactly a great thing. Let’s not forget also that Ford only got about 40hp per liter out of that engine apposed to the common 70hp+ per liter you’d expect out of a Honda so it's not like that engine had a hard life to live up to. You mentioned you'd like to see a Honda survive like that but that's why they're better, they don't have a whole line of engines battling the same problems. They're simply made better and the American manufactures are getting better but they still have a lot to learn.
 

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