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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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i have a 1993 ford f150 4x4. The altenator is charging but not charging the battery. The volts on the battery are 12.43 when the truck in not running and keeps dropping when the truck is running. I have checked all grounds. Need some help.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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i have a 1993 ford f150 4x4. The altenator is charging but not charging the battery. The volts on the battery are 12.43 when the truck in not running and keeps dropping when the truck is running. I have checked all grounds. Need some help.
How do you know the Alternator is charging?
If it is charging than you have an open fuse link (or fuse) between the alternator and battery or a bad plug at the alternator.
Also check for a bad connection at the starter relay battery side with the battery cable.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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I had the altenator to a shop and had it tested. I also tested the fusable link on altenator wire to starter relay, checked out fine. check plug on altenator also fine,
 
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Sounds like the battery may have a dead cell....

12.43 sounds normal, but try this...

Check the voltage with the engine off. Start the engine then turn it off. Re-check the battery voltage. This wil take the "surface charge" off the battery.

If it's still 12.43, then the battery is good.

If your engine is running and the voltage is dropping, the alternator is bad. Or your have a major voltage draw somwhere in the system.

On the Alternator plug their is a black/orange. The wire leads a fuseable link. Check this fuse. It it's gone, no charge will reach the battery. I have a electrical diagram on CD, but no way to snap shot it so a can post it.

If I can find a way to take a snap shot of the page/pages, I'll post the diagram and troubleshooting procedures.
 

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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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You need to unplug the ISA plug from the alternator and see if you have battery power on the LG/R wire with key on.
If you have battery power there then you to find out if you have battery power at the Yellow wire with a white stripe (A wire).
You more than likely do not have power on one of these two wires, let us know the wire with no power and we will help you from there.
Also make sure you have Battery voltage at the B+ on the Alternator.


 

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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Thanks for the information, I will try this and get back to you.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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I am having the exact same problem with a 94 Explorer. There is NO voltage on the LG/R wire when the key is on.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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I am having the exact same problem with a 94 Explorer. There is NO voltage on the LG/R wire when the key is on.
You will have to trace the wire back to the Ignition switch and find out where you have lost it.
This could be at any of the plugs from the alternator to the Ignition switch or the wire itself could be broken open in the harness anywhere along the way.

This may help

 

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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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Thank You Thank You -- While I haven't found the broken wire yet, I ran a jumper from the battery to the alternator and it started charging just fine.
Could a burned out insterment panel bulb cause the open??
 
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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Thank You Thank You -- While I haven't found the broken wire yet, I ran a jumper from the battery to the alternator and it started charging just fine. Could a burned out insterment panel bulb cause the open??
It’s not suppose to. That is the reason that they put that 510-ohm resistor around the bulb so if the bulb burns out it will still charge.

On the other hand I have heard of reports that said that they had a bulb burned out and when they replaced it, it started charging. I do not know what years they were talking about and if they had the resistor or not. Also if they had a resistor it may have been bad.
 

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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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voltage problem mostly in idle?

Hello I have a 94 f150 4x4 (5.0 302 efi). My problem is when im in idle and rev the gas pedal my voltage meter drops way down to just about make the truck stall in most cases it will stall. I have put a brand new alternator in the truck but have'nt done anything with the battery as of yet. When i drive the truck it doesnt happen to much but i know this isnt normal. I just bought the truck about a week ago and everything else is in perfect working order but this problem hmm... Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you,
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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I unpluged the ISA plug, there was no power on LG/R wire. There was power on yellow/white and power on orange and black
 
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Originally Posted by waynebutt
I unpluged the ISA plug, there was no power on LG/R wire. There was power on yellow/white and power on orange and black
AS you can see from the diagram below the LG/R (Light Green with Red stripe) wire is the wire that turns the alternator off and on.
The Alternator also uses this wire to turn the Indicator light off.

If you do not have battery power on the wire with ISA plug unplugged and the key is turned on then you will have to trace back towards the Ignition Switch from the ISA Plug.

It could be a bad plug, open wire (broken) and some say the Indicator light bulb itself burned out can do this, but as I said above the 510-Ohm resister around the bulb is supposed to prevent this.

The diagram below will tell where the plugs and splice are located.

Good Luck.

 
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Hello I have a 94 f150 4x4 (5.0 302 efi). My problem is when im in idle and rev the gas pedal my voltage meter drops way down to just about make the truck stall in most cases it will stall. I have put a brand new alternator in the truck but have'nt done anything with the battery as of yet. When i drive the truck it doesnt happen to much but i know this isnt normal. I just bought the truck about a week ago and everything else is in perfect working order but this problem hmm... Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you,
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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SubFord,

Is that resistor in the instrument cluster? I ask because I had my instrument cluster out for a couple of days and then had weird charging problems untill I put it back in.

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