good idea....you ever get the rest of the parts for that 8274 from wayne?

 

not yet, prolly get them tom! prolly start working on the removable mount tom

-cutts-

 

what ever happened to that pos 8000 lb winch you had???

you knwo the one that broke in half a ferw times?

 

i just threw all three of them away! i think garbage man kept them cause i saw him leaning in the trash can pulling something out and taking something to the cab, then proceeded to dump the trash, lol

dad has one on the front of his bronco that has not been used one time, i was thinking of yanking that from him but i doubt he'll do that

-cutts-

 

seems like they might make a good rear winch....maybe for 5 pulls or so at least

lol thats the only brand winch i have seen break in half

 

To increase the power of the winch you must use two ****** blocks, three part line.
(most) Everyone thinks that if you use one ****** block (two part line) you double the pulling power of the winch.
That is incorrect, you must use two ****** blocks (or more) to increase the pulling power of your winch.
Recently there was an article about this in one of the Four wheel or Off road mags.

Paul

 

how is only using 1 block not mulitplying force? takes twice the distance of wire to pull it in, and its half as slow.

 

I thought the same thing at first.

But think about it, with only one pulley you're still pulling the same amount of weight just changing the direction of the pull.

Check out the following link.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/pulley.htm

 

while that link it true, if the line is anchored to the same point as the winch, and the block is anchored at the thing being pulled, you will only need 1/2 the force to move the weight, because it is doubling the pull force by only pulling the wieght at half the speed the winch is reeling in.

 

there you go tjc, thats what i was thinking.

 

There is a difference though, than is demonstrated. They are lifting, meaning the weight is constant on the rope. However, if used properly, the line will be run back to the same point that is pulling, so rather than the weight itself being constant, the BOTH lines are pulling, not just the one side. Trust me, it makes a LOT of difference to use a single block and tackle than it would by pulling on it's own. The cheapy winch wouldn't be able to pull a 3500 pound car without heating up and tripping the protection breaker. With the block and tackle, (single) it pulls it on without ever tripping the breaker. Same with a hand pull come along, I gurantee it makes a difference. Now if it were to pull upwards, no it wouldn't make a difference, but in effect, even though it isn't moving, both lines are pulling, like it would if you ran from an anchor point to the upper pulley, then to a lower pulley, and attach at the upper pulley mount.

 

fiesty, wow. we're dealing with 2 completly different setups here, were pulling on the pulley, with the end of the line being stationary, not the pulley being put somewhere and lifting the end of the rope.

 

We'll see you in a week PaulwestSki and fishmanndotcom. That kind of talk doesn't cut it here, especially deliberately rewriting cuss words to get around the filters.

 

The reason why the pulling power is doubled is because each line of cable is pulling 1/2 the weight that it once was, think of it this way, a weight of say 2 tons (ie a truck) is being pulled, the winch on one end is appling the pulling force, and the other end is anchored solid, so effectivly that single cable is supporting the entire weight, 2tons, of the truck.

Now toss a block and tackle in there, anchor it and run the cable back to the weight and anchor the cable. Now the weight (truck) is essentially supported by 2 cables, with the block and tackle one anchor point and the truck the anchor point, each with half the weight of the truck, so the actually pulling capacity of the winch DOES NOT CHANGE, the weight of the truck is divided among the amount of supporting cables, thus reducing the amount of weight the winch is pulling.

Also the reason why winching speed is slowed down is because there is twice the amount of cable to bring in, as the actually specs f the winch DO NOT CHANGE .

Now as far as the trailer winch is conerned, why not purchase a 6000lb superwinch thats meant for trailers (ie a utility winch)?

 

That's kinda what I am looking for, just kinda looking to reaffirm what I wanted... I had one that supossedly could handle that much, but it actually has trouble doing it. Now I am looking for a better one that will actually do the job. At least I only gave $40 for the cheapy...