Pa. liciencing and weight problems

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Mar 24, 2006 | 07:19 PM

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I'm not afraid of the test by no means it just erks me to no end!I will check on the log to be sure but even so it shouldn't be a problem either. We do travel interstate every week end. But then with diesel prices who knows what is going to happen. Thanks for all of your input!!!!

Malinda

Mar 24, 2006 | 07:26 PM

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By "interstate", I was referring to state to state vs. "intrastate", which is travel within the state.

Good luck and have fun. Getting there is always half the fun for me.

Yes, diesel prices are outragous right now. At least the price for gasoline has closed the gap, I don't feel as bad that way!!

Mar 25, 2006 | 04:02 AM

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I also ment from state to state. Too many things on my mind. Diesel is 2.80 a allon here today who knows tomorrow. I know I need to sell some ponies and that is been very difficult because the ecomony is so out of wack but that is a whole nother story LOL! Thanks again for all of your help and hopefully I have sorted through all of this and I have it correct. Everytime I asked someone I got a different answer and you know how that goes the next thing you don't know weather you are comming or going!

MAlinda

Mar 25, 2006 | 04:47 AM

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Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

You will not be over the 26001 pound requirement so you don't need a class A CDL here. Truck 10,000 GVWR+ trailer 14,000 GVWR = 24,000 Pound GCWR = NO CDL REQUIRED.!!!!!

Class B -- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.

Your single vehicle is only 10000 pounds so you don't need a class B CDL here.

No CDL = No log book.

Load your horses & go have fun.

Mar 25, 2006 | 05:27 AM

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Malinda, By you having horses, you should know of a feed mill that has a truck scale. Take your truck with a full fuel tank(s) and the trailer hooked up and have it weighed. This will give you a base line of what your rig weighs. Add the weight of each animal (aprox) and other gear/tach to the base.

If your truck weighs in a 7,000lbs and the trailer at 3,000lbs you have a 10,000lbs base. You add 5 1200lbs horses and now you are at 16,000lbs. Add 2000 more for feed, tack and riders and you are at 18,000lbs. With a 20,000lbs tag on the truck you have 2,000lbs to spare.

The tag on the truck has to be for the total weight of the haul when weighed, not what it might or could be. I don't think horse truck trailer combos have to stop in the DOT scale houses. They drive past them in NC.

From reading here and other forums I understand Pa has some wicked rules, but there are still some absolutes that they have to work in.

You may be required to have a class A license but I don't think a CDL for what you are doing.

38 ft. is a big trailer, how many horses do you haul at a time? You could have to get a bigger truck.

John

Mar 25, 2006 | 10:00 AM

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It is a 6 horse with a mid tack and dressing room. I usually haul 4 and use the other 2 stall for carts, hay if raining because I do have a hay rack on top of my trailer. It is big but it pulls like a dream and my truck is also a pleasure to drive. Leather captain chairs, tv, rope light interior, fully loaded with 5 tone gray on white and the trailer is white alumin (spelling). It is a beautiful rig and we have worked hard to have someting like this. Of course we bought both used. When we bought the truck 2 years ago it only had 94000 on it and I gave 15000 for it. I could have sold it right away for a profit! The trailer we gave 15500 but we drove to Texas to get it but we stole it also. Thanks for the information!!!

Malinda

Mar 26, 2006 | 10:42 AM

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I recentl found out that if I pull any trailer over 10,000 lbs, I need a CDL, in my province( Manitoba).

In fact , this year the local college is introducing a 2 day, RV course to help improve driver's skills for those handling an over 10,000 lb trailer. It's not mandatory, but I wonder if it will become so, in the future.

It bugs me, to a certain degree, because, 30 years, ago as a University student I used to drive commercial Trucks with GVWs over 10,000 lbs. Did this for about 5 years.

Back in those days I had a Chauffeur's license, which has been dropped for the more complicated (probably better) CDL license. What bugs me is that I drove E350 dually, box trucks and up to and including F600 Grain trucks, which would have a GVW of around 26000-30000 lbs.

I have a feeling that this will not count, because of the fact that it was decades ago.

If anything, I think in the future, regs will continue to tighten up, and eventually if we all have to get an "RV" license, then it will have a big effect on the RV industry.