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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Fords MAF Conversion kit question.

I was window shopping today and I was looking at their kits and podering the possibilities, and I was wondering.....What is the reason they sell a kit for an Auto Trans and a manual trans? I mean if this was an 87 mustang I wouldnt think it would matter because the AOD is a non Electric trans so its actually like a manual.....in a manner of speaking.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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The AOD involves vacuum as does the MAF.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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I still dont see why it would matter... are you saying that the auto MAF system has a sensor monitoring vacuum but it doesnt on a manual? How whould that make any differance?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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The auto computer has a less agressive timing curve to help keep the AOD from blowing up. Either computer will work on an AOD or a 5-speed.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Right....I was thinking of getting the trans contol unit for the e40d so that I could use that kit but wasnt sure wich one...or if it would matter.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Eric, I read somewhere that the computer for the auto had a more aggressive timing curve to make up for the losses from the auto trans.

This made some sense to me, but didn't explain why the A9L (manual trans) is still more popular than the A9P (auto trans).

Also, I've read the the auto computer will work in a manual although it may trigger a CEL since the compter can't find the tranny, but that there are more problems associated with trying to run a manual computer in an auto.

Not disagreeing with you, just throwing it out there for discussion. I hold your knowledge and expertise in these matters in very high esteem and would be interested in getting your input.

BTW, I recently scored an A9L that I'm planning to use for my Ranger 5.0 swap. A guy I know had it just sitting in his garage and gave it to me, along with the Mass Air engine and main wiring harnesses. I bought a '91 WC T5 from him for 300 bucks a few months back and he's been kicking me down stuff for free ever since.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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That all sounds feasable too....accept for the part where the computer doesnt detect the trans...becasue the AOD isnt hooked up to the computer.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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actually the a9p is more popular due to its more advanced timing. the a9l is just more common in the stangs.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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So which one would everyone reccomend for use with the my set up. Im gonna use the Baumman Eliminator control unit for my E4od and Im still wondering which kit to use? Auto or Manual kit?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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i would run the auto i guess.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Hmm, I'll have to re-check that info...
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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I mean Im sure it would be fine with the auto, It probobly wouldnt matter either way...
 
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Originally Posted by TigerDan
This made some sense to me, but didn't explain why the A9L (manual trans) is still more popular than the A9P (auto trans).
Possibly because there are a lot more of them?

To me it really doesn't matter, if you can get your hands on a a9l or a9p, use either one. The timing tables can be changed if desired anyway and I'm sure it's really not a big difference between either computer.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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do you have to change your firing order when a mustang computer is installed with a e-cam or trickflow stage 1 cam?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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The base determinant of firing order is the camshaft being used. So if you use an e-cam or TFS 1, it'll have a 302HO/351 order. The mustang computer is set on that same firing order (injector firing order).

All you'd need to do is switch the plug wires to the 302ho/351 firing order.
 
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