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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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Angry Problem with Banks Monster install on Excursion

Finishing up installing the Banks Monster system (4" SS exhaust with power elbow) on my 2001 Excursion. I go to install the tailpipe and it doesn't fit around the rear shock. I check the stock tailpipe and it bends to the side to clear the shock as it passes over the axle. The one in the Banks kit doesn't have this bend. I checked the part number on the kit and it's the correct kit for the Excusion (part no. 48654). Of course it's Sunday and I won't be able to contact Banks until tomorrow. I'm thinking they may have packaged the tailpipe for a pickup in the kit by mistake (the shocks are oriented different on the pickup - one angled forward and one angled back - Excursion has both shocks angled back). The part number on the tailpipe is 53523. Has anyone else installed this kit on an Excursion? If so, did you have problems with the tailpipe fitting?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by VX-23 Hokie
Finishing up installing the Banks Monster system (4" SS exhaust with power elbow) on my 2001 Excursion. I go to install the tailpipe and it doesn't fit around the rear shock. I check the stock tailpipe and it bends to the side to clear the shock as it passes over the axle. The one in the Banks kit doesn't have this bend. I checked the part number on the kit and it's the correct kit for the Excusion (part no. 48654). Of course it's Sunday and I won't be able to contact Banks until tomorrow. I'm thinking they may have packaged the tailpipe for a pickup in the kit by mistake (the shocks are oriented different on the pickup - one angled forward and one angled back - Excursion has both shocks angled back). The part number on the tailpipe is 53523. Has anyone else installed this kit on an Excursion? If so, did you have problems with the tailpipe fitting?
I have the same exhaust on my 01 4x4 Ex. Yes the tail pipe comes really close to the shock, but is should clear. I had to play around with mine until I got it where I wanted, about 1/4" clearance. I then tack welded the seams so it can't move around over time.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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My problem turned out to be me being a *******. I was trying to route the tailpipe the same way the stock pipe was routed (to the outside of the shock if I remember correctly). The Banks system routes the exhaust to the inside of the shock which provides better flow (less bend).
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by VX-23 Hokie
My problem turned out to be me being a *******. I was trying to route the tailpipe the same way the stock pipe was routed (to the outside of the shock if I remember correctly). The Banks system routes the exhaust to the inside of the shock which provides better flow (less bend).
We all make mistakes, what's important is that we learn from them, and pass the knowledge on......
 
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Old May 13, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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VX-23 ... I'm about to order my 4" Monster from Banks and was wondering how you like it ... I just starting my research and the conventional wisdom seems to be that Banks while pricey ... is good stuff ..

Wondering what you and any other Banks users are experiencing ...
 
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Old May 13, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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I'm happy with mine. Runs much cooler and a nice noticable power increase. The sound of the exhaust has a nice tone to it. Not too loud but a nice growl when you crack down on it. If you really want to open it up you could go with a system with no muffler. I'd seriously consider getting the Banks power elbow if I were you. That makes a world of difference. It opens up the flow straight out of the turbo (provides 4" diameter from the turbo to the downpipe) and removes the EBPV which is a flow restrictor. The installation of the exhaust system was fairly easy, but installing the power elbow was a pain. There's a couple of bolts in the back that are hard to get to.

As far as price, Banks ain't cheap. I didn't do much shopping around - just went with a reputable company with a stainless steel product. If you're on a tight budget, I'm sure there are less costly products that are probably just as good. With Banks, you know you have a company that will stand behind its product.
 
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Old May 14, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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VX-23 ... thanks for the info ... I was not aware of the Power Elbow option .. where does that fit in the system? Direct bolt on to the turbo? What does it replace in the standard Banks Monster Exhaust? Also, pardon the ignorance, but what is an EBPV and where is it?
 
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Old May 14, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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The exhaust backpressure valve (EBPV) is housed in cast metal and attached to the turbine between the turbine and the exhaust downpipe. It looks like its part of the turbine assembly. The valve is basically a circular flat-plate restrictor that pivots on a center post. Even when fully open, the guts of the valve are retricting flow. The purpose of the EBPV is to help warm up the engine by retricting the exhaust flow from the engine until it warms up (at least that's my understanding). I've had my power elbow on for 5 months now and have never experienced any symptoms of not having the EBPV in place.

To intall the power elbow, you remove the casting that houses the EBPV (7 bolts)from the turbo and replace it with the power elbow. The elbow is a just a hunk of cast metal that bends the flow from the turbine to the downpipe. If you order the Banks Monster system, you can get the power elbow included as an option (you don't have to order it seperately, which would be more expensive).

link http://www.bankspower.com/System.cfm...F01&sysid=SF23
 
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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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Thanks for the EBPV lesson. I have a 6.0L PSD and from what I can tell Banks does not offer the Power Elbow for the 6.0L ... I'm wondering if I have an EBPV on the 6?
 
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No the 6.0 does not have the EBPV it relies on the variable vane turbo
 
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Old May 18, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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We carry Banks, MBRP, Silverline, Magnaflow, Hog Performance, and probably 5 other brands I cant think of at the moment, but If you ask Toreador_Diesel he will agree you should atleast consider the MBRP system. They are less money and very good quality. Dont get me wrong...Banks makes some really great products, but my personal opinion is the MBRP may just be the best bang for the buck. We probably sell 10 MBRP system to every one Monster Exhaust system.

And you probably made up your mind before I threw a wrench into the works. lol sorry, just passing knowledge from experience.
 
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