Bell housing adaption...
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From: saxton pa.
Homespun around here in the latr 60,s & 70's there were quite a few F500/600s with the 300/4spd/2spd combo. Local dealer sold lots of them to the local farmers. The only V8's were the FT's. I preped a lot of those trucks at the dealer, most were barebones no option plain janes. They had the prices down and they sold lots of them. The local GM & Ford dealers often had price wars.
They would sell trucks at or below cost to get their sales #s up. Them later on try to sell them a new pickup or car & make up the difference.
Have A Good Day --------- Hotwrench
They would sell trucks at or below cost to get their sales #s up. Them later on try to sell them a new pickup or car & make up the difference.
Have A Good Day --------- Hotwrench
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Hotwrench, never have seen one of those trucks -- when I was young, all the big trucks were Cornbinders in our part of the world. But as the 300 was a truck engine, it makes sense that Ford would have a motor mount bellhousing for them in big trucks. Thanks for the tip. That bellhousing would, as you say, allow the 300 to practically drop into Customcab's 4x4.
Homespun, regarding the T98, it was replaced with the T18 somewhere along the line, so when your listings show that, it is the same thing, practically. I don't know what the difference is between these two, they look similar.
I don't think that 289s or 302s came in medium or large trucks. The "spread" in the line-up would be taken from the 300 to the 332 FT motor.
Homespun, regarding the T98, it was replaced with the T18 somewhere along the line, so when your listings show that, it is the same thing, practically. I don't know what the difference is between these two, they look similar.
I don't think that 289s or 302s came in medium or large trucks. The "spread" in the line-up would be taken from the 300 to the 332 FT motor.
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From: australia
bell houseing
hi just been reading your threads , im think y change the 292 ? it will tow just as good as a 300?
sound better? i have a 292 in a f700 5 speed /2 speed diff, it works great its gross weight is 10.430 and tare 4460, it tows a trailer with a bobcat on it but im building a 361 to go in easy fit as i have three mounts ,2 on the bell ,1 on the front pully crank , same bellhousing , same clutch, same gear boxs my 2 cents worth
sound better? i have a 292 in a f700 5 speed /2 speed diff, it works great its gross weight is 10.430 and tare 4460, it tows a trailer with a bobcat on it but im building a 361 to go in easy fit as i have three mounts ,2 on the bell ,1 on the front pully crank , same bellhousing , same clutch, same gear boxs my 2 cents worth
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Knowing this, are you saying that the bell-H from a 60's F-500+ and 300 might bolt to an older T-98...I.E. like the one in my 55 F-600?
Thanks!!
RIck
Thanks!!
RIck
Originally Posted by HOTWRENCH
Mitch you can use a bell from a 60's era F500 or larger with a 300 six . The front mount will work for you too. I did this swap about 10 years ago for a local farmer. He's still running that old truck, it was a 59/ 60 F350.
I hope this helps---------- Hotwrench
I hope this helps---------- Hotwrench
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Do you remember which transmission it had in it?
Originally Posted by HOTWRENCH
The truck I used for a donor was a 67 F500 300 / 4 spd. The trans was a bolt up to that bell if I remember the f500 trans was a B/W. The bell had side mts.
and the 300 was a front mt , with a little minor foolin around it fit like it was factory. As far as T&C goes when I worked for Ford they said it was Tall & Close meaning the pattern. I don't know if thats right or not. The front mount wwas similar too the 223 / 6 front mt. Ill try to remember more later.
Good Luck------- Hotwrench
and the 300 was a front mt , with a little minor foolin around it fit like it was factory. As far as T&C goes when I worked for Ford they said it was Tall & Close meaning the pattern. I don't know if thats right or not. The front mount wwas similar too the 223 / 6 front mt. Ill try to remember more later.
Good Luck------- Hotwrench
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From: saxton pa.
Bellhousing
The trans was a T18 borg warner with 1 3/8 input & E brake on the driveshaft. Here are a few casting # I put together.
Bellhousing casting # C5TZ-7505-E fits DCFN series 500/600
4/5 speed 300/6
Flywheel # C5TZ-6375-B 12"
Flywheel # C5TZ-6375-S 13" HD
Have a good day ------ Hotwrench
Bellhousing casting # C5TZ-7505-E fits DCFN series 500/600
4/5 speed 300/6
Flywheel # C5TZ-6375-B 12"
Flywheel # C5TZ-6375-S 13" HD
Have a good day ------ Hotwrench
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From: Southern New Hampshire
Originally Posted by HT32BSX115
Do you remember which transmission it had in it?
So when are you going F-100 mobile with those Hallicrafters boatanchors???
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Ok,
So you're saying the newer F-500 CAME with a T-18 + 300 six stock?
Ant the bellhousing below also works with a 5 speed trans? Do you know which trans is the 5 speed?
Evidently all the transmissions that go in the F500/600's have the Ebrake on the back...
So you're saying the newer F-500 CAME with a T-18 + 300 six stock?
Ant the bellhousing below also works with a 5 speed trans? Do you know which trans is the 5 speed?
Evidently all the transmissions that go in the F500/600's have the Ebrake on the back...
Originally Posted by HOTWRENCH
The trans was a T18 borg warner with 1 3/8 input & E brake on the driveshaft. Here are a few casting # I put together.
Bellhousing casting # C5TZ-7505-E fits DCFN series 500/600
4/5 speed 300/6
Flywheel # C5TZ-6375-B 12"
Flywheel # C5TZ-6375-S 13" HD
Have a good day ------ Hotwrench
Bellhousing casting # C5TZ-7505-E fits DCFN series 500/600
4/5 speed 300/6
Flywheel # C5TZ-6375-B 12"
Flywheel # C5TZ-6375-S 13" HD
Have a good day ------ Hotwrench
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Hmm.....you broke the code!!
Actually I have thought about putting my AF67/PMR7 in the 55 F-600 (I have the mobile power supply....complete with vibrator!)! There's a lot of people up here in the NW that like to do AM on 75 and the Elmac stuff would fit right in!!
I actually DO have an SX-115 and an HT-32B The SX-115 actually works!...the HT-32B has not been smoke tested yet! It needs a bit of work.
Actually I have thought about putting my AF67/PMR7 in the 55 F-600 (I have the mobile power supply....complete with vibrator!)! There's a lot of people up here in the NW that like to do AM on 75 and the Elmac stuff would fit right in!!
I actually DO have an SX-115 and an HT-32B The SX-115 actually works!...the HT-32B has not been smoke tested yet! It needs a bit of work.
Originally Posted by 286merc
So when are you going F-100 mobile with those Hallicrafters boatanchors???
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Originally Posted by HT32BSX115
Hmm.....you broke the code!!
Actually I have thought about putting my AF67/PMR7 in the 55 F-600 (I have the mobile power supply....complete with vibrator!)! There's a lot of people up here in the NW that like to do AM on 75 and the Elmac stuff would fit right in!!
I actually DO have an SX-115 and an HT-32B The SX-115 actually works!...the HT-32B has not been smoke tested yet! It needs a bit of work.
Actually I have thought about putting my AF67/PMR7 in the 55 F-600 (I have the mobile power supply....complete with vibrator!)! There's a lot of people up here in the NW that like to do AM on 75 and the Elmac stuff would fit right in!!
I actually DO have an SX-115 and an HT-32B The SX-115 actually works!...the HT-32B has not been smoke tested yet! It needs a bit of work.
Got lots of BA's here including a recreation of my 55 station: Viking 1 and HQ129X which is on 75 AM. Lots of new stuff also for DX!
Have fun
Carl
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clark 5 speed
Hi hotwrench just reading your threads on gearboxs , im changing my 292 to a 330/361, i have this running gear ( clark 5 speed , eaton 2 speed diff ) i have a 330ft bore out to 361ft size (C6ME-A) casting numbers with use ing the 330 ( 361 ) bellhousing in to my f700 , 1963 the ft still has it front mount on it which look s close to the 292 mount , will the boxs go up to the motor and bell ? 
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I ran the casting number on F700's Bellhousing earlier.
C4TA-7505-G = C4TZ-7505-D
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Add to you ref:
C5TZ-7505-E .. Use with: Warner T-19; Clark 280; NP 435; NP 542
1965/69 B-C-F-N500-600
1970/72 B-C-F-LN500/600
240/300 I-6
C4TA-7505-G = C4TZ-7505-D
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Add to you ref:
C5TZ-7505-E .. Use with: Warner T-19; Clark 280; NP 435; NP 542
1965/69 B-C-F-N500-600
1970/72 B-C-F-LN500/600
240/300 I-6
Last edited by NumberDummy; Feb 7, 2007 at 08:13 AM.