Toploader Trans. Info.
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Toploader Trans. Info.
Apparently, Ford installed the older toploaders in Broncos and Jeeps in '80-'86. It was the 4 speed , wide ratio version w/ a tower (or top) shifter for these trucks. It may have also come in a 3 speed/OD version.
I have not been able to confirm this through any Jeep sites. Can anyone here
w/ Bronco trans. tech. knowledge confirm for me? I would like to use one of
these in a conversion (street rod) project, if possible, as the top shifter would
alleviate clearance problems and retain the "old-timey" look in my '36 coupe.
Any and all info. appreciated......
Robb
I have not been able to confirm this through any Jeep sites. Can anyone here
w/ Bronco trans. tech. knowledge confirm for me? I would like to use one of
these in a conversion (street rod) project, if possible, as the top shifter would
alleviate clearance problems and retain the "old-timey" look in my '36 coupe.
Any and all info. appreciated......
Robb
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Manual was a New Process 435 in the Big Bronco as far as I know until the Mazda derivatives were employed in '88. If I am mistaken, someone will be along soon to make ammends. If Heeps had em' I certainly wouldn't know nor care. (Reformed Heep owner who now knows better).
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There was also what I think was called the SROD, 3sp w/OD. Its the one that you have to push down/left/forward for reverse. My 83 had one, (behind a 302) wasn't too bad a transmission but not near as heavy duty as some and 1st gear was tall enough that any pulling or offroading required low range.
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The SROD and the side mount version may have been used in Broncos. Have one (side mounted version) in my '85 E150. 1st is 3.27 or so, much lower than a car top loader.
Go here for info on these, and a kit to make a car toploader a top shifted trans.
Bring money.
http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/imposters.htm
You will be taken to the "imposters" part of the site here, where he shows the OD vs. regular 4 speed. Look around the site for the other stuff, including the top shift conversion.
Go here for info on these, and a kit to make a car toploader a top shifted trans.
Bring money.
http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/imposters.htm
You will be taken to the "imposters" part of the site here, where he shows the OD vs. regular 4 speed. Look around the site for the other stuff, including the top shift conversion.
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Thanks for the info, guys.
Yeah, it all takes $$$, doesn't it? (Especially to have a shop like D. Kees
do it for you.)
Believe I'll continue the d.i.y. route and see if I can find the tech. article
in Street Rodder that came out a few years back......
Robb
Yeah, it all takes $$$, doesn't it? (Especially to have a shop like D. Kees
do it for you.)
Believe I'll continue the d.i.y. route and see if I can find the tech. article
in Street Rodder that came out a few years back......
Robb
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The NP 435 was not as popular after 1980...Ford switched to the Borg-Warner T-18 if it was the Granny Gear 4 speed which lasted until 1989 or 1990. The Mazda 5 speed came into play in 1987 and up. The other 4 speed Ford used if it was not overdrive was the T-19 which and a normal 1st gear and 1:1 4th gear and looks the same as the T-18. This tranny was only used behind the 6.9 Diesel though so it would not have made it to the Bronco's from the factory.
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