Intel VS Amd
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Unless you overclock or you are one of those obsessive people who does nothing but run benchmarks all day long (and creates signature banners with their scores!) or is worried about getting an extra 5 fps in their favorite game, let me be the first to say it really doesn't matter which way you go. Both get the job done just as well for probably 85-90% of the population.
My main factor has been bang for the buck, so I've gone with AMD. However should Intel produce something that is a good value for the money, there certainly isn't anything that would prevent me from buying an Intel chip.
My main factor has been bang for the buck, so I've gone with AMD. However should Intel produce something that is a good value for the money, there certainly isn't anything that would prevent me from buying an Intel chip.
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I was going to go for intel, just because my old p3 was so damn good. But after doing some research it seems like amd might be the way to go. Thanks for all the opinions guys!
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Unless you overclock or you are one of those obsessive people who does nothing but run benchmarks all day long (and creates signature banners with their scores!) or is worried about getting an extra 5 fps in their favorite game, let me be the first to say it really doesn't matter which way you go. Both get the job done just as well for probably 85-90% of the population.
My main factor has been bang for the buck, so I've gone with AMD. However should Intel produce something that is a good value for the money, there certainly isn't anything that would prevent me from buying an Intel chip.
My main factor has been bang for the buck, so I've gone with AMD. However should Intel produce something that is a good value for the money, there certainly isn't anything that would prevent me from buying an Intel chip.
call me crazy, but thats my thing... im impatient as hell and cant stand load times, lag in games and whatnot
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Originally Posted by kc7smo
I have always used AMD, never had any problems. I usually can buy a faster AMD processor for less cash then an Intel...
Really though, they are both excellent, and you won't go wrong either way.
Really though, they are both excellent, and you won't go wrong either way.
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I've always been an Intel user. I had a bad experience with an AMD processor a few years back and since then I've stuck with Intel. In my opinion, unless you are gaming or doing some serious video editing it doesn't really matter which one you use. They both work very well. I would suggest picking one that meets your processing needs and your price limitations. If you can get more for your money with AMD then go for it. Also, make sure you pick a good mother board.
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The newer AMD's are rather pointless to watercool. The integrated memory controller can't reliably take more than 1.6 volts. TO ALL YOU AMD OVERCLOCKERS: KEEP YOUR VCORE BELOW 1.6V! I'm trying to save your chip before you toast it.
The only thing that causes processors to warm up is the increase in Vcore, not upping the FSB or HTT.
AMD's win the cost/performance market right now. There's no reason NOT to go with them. Though, this summer, like I said, the Conroe core will be released. Intel is still on the archaic FSB technology, but they upped it again. The chip will be a good 10-20% faster than the AMD FX-60
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The only thing that causes processors to warm up is the increase in Vcore, not upping the FSB or HTT.
AMD's win the cost/performance market right now. There's no reason NOT to go with them. Though, this summer, like I said, the Conroe core will be released. Intel is still on the archaic FSB technology, but they upped it again. The chip will be a good 10-20% faster than the AMD FX-60
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Originally Posted by fordboy_52
i love comments like these. im not trying to start a fight, i actually laughed when i read ur post. but mabey im kinda like what u said. i do like to know what my pc is doing. i do like those extra fps (in doom3 i wanted all i could get). i overclock and water cool my pc and customize my windows. i can have my computer from rest into windows ready to work in 20 seconds. thats after all the crap loads that holds up your computer for usually 20-30 alone.
call me crazy, but thats my thing... im impatient as hell and cant stand load times, lag in games and whatnot
Matt
call me crazy, but thats my thing... im impatient as hell and cant stand load times, lag in games and whatnot
Matt
I actually used to be one of those kinds of people when I used to play games alot. Now I may only buy a game maybe once every couple of years (unless its for my X Box) so I just don't keep up on all the tweaking stuff anymore. I think it started getting a little too wierd when a vast majority of the people who visited those forums had those little banners with some hot chick with their overclocking scores superimposed on the image. It seemed to me that most of them wouldn't have to just look at those pictures if they'd put as much time and effort into getting a date as they did coming up with those ridiculous banners.
I still overclock my machine just for grins...but I'm definately not as hard core as I used to be.
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If you want it, I have an AMD cpu for sale on ebay, no bids yet starting at .99 item 6859685379.
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Looks cool kc7 but I need one by this weekend, thanks though man! I asked around school today about amd and intel and got the same kind of mixed answers. One guy sasy go witht his, one guy says go with that!
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Now I am by no means computer savy.
From what I was told by the tech at one of the local computer shops when I bought my computer (I bought a used system but it works great for me) The only real reason to go with the Intel over amd is the higher end Intel chips are supposed to be marginally better with heavy graphics use.
That being said my computer is a gaming computer (that is what it was built for anyway) and it has an Intel chip. My last one had a amd chip (something shorted out in it and it started on fire, tech figured that it was poor wiring). I personally cant tell much difference but then again I use my puter mainly for browsing the forums and ordering parts.
Once again take this with a grain of salt. I can verify what he said through my own knowledge. I am a farmer, not a computer expert.
From what I was told by the tech at one of the local computer shops when I bought my computer (I bought a used system but it works great for me) The only real reason to go with the Intel over amd is the higher end Intel chips are supposed to be marginally better with heavy graphics use.
That being said my computer is a gaming computer (that is what it was built for anyway) and it has an Intel chip. My last one had a amd chip (something shorted out in it and it started on fire, tech figured that it was poor wiring). I personally cant tell much difference but then again I use my puter mainly for browsing the forums and ordering parts.
Once again take this with a grain of salt. I can verify what he said through my own knowledge. I am a farmer, not a computer expert.
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Thats wrong. Intel started using the Hyperthread tech to try and double the amount of data it could take in at once, problem is, it was junk. AMD has a much higher FSB, so the clocking speed it advertises, you can actually acheive.
Its like buying a vette, that advertises it can go 200 mph, but the governor on it won't let you go about 120. But you can buy a Mustang, that advertises you can get speeds of 140, and you can actually reach 140.
Its like buying a vette, that advertises it can go 200 mph, but the governor on it won't let you go about 120. But you can buy a Mustang, that advertises you can get speeds of 140, and you can actually reach 140.
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AMD doesn't use FSB technology. That's old news, and Intel is still stuck on it. AMD's rely much less on memory bandwidth to get the job done. They have plenty of it, and it's not causing problems. Intel has HORRIBLE memory bandwidth, so they make up for it by chucking the CPU full of L2 cache.
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Originally Posted by FghtinIrshNvrDie
Intel has HORRIBLE memory bandwidth, so they make up for it by chucking the CPU full of L2 cache.
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AMD does use FSB. The hypertransport is the FSB * the HTT multi. The CPU speed is the FSB * the CPU multi.
This thread is a good reason why I don't ask automotive questions on a computer forum. All you get is half truths and things that are totally false.
Let me break it down basicly-
Best value single core-AMD64 3200+Venice
Best value dual core-Intel P-D 920
Best performance single core- Typicly A64
Best performance dual core- typicly A64
Bottom line-Comparable chips from Intel and AMD won't be distingishable without benchmarks. AMD single cores tend to be lower priced than than Intels and vice versa for dual cores.
That's very, very basic. There are thousands of variables depending on what you use your PC for. If you want better advice, PM me or stop by www.extremeoverclocking.com . I build and tweak these things all the time for maximum performance with the least amount of money spent as another expensive hobby.
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This thread is a good reason why I don't ask automotive questions on a computer forum. All you get is half truths and things that are totally false.
Let me break it down basicly-
Best value single core-AMD64 3200+Venice
Best value dual core-Intel P-D 920
Best performance single core- Typicly A64
Best performance dual core- typicly A64
Bottom line-Comparable chips from Intel and AMD won't be distingishable without benchmarks. AMD single cores tend to be lower priced than than Intels and vice versa for dual cores.
That's very, very basic. There are thousands of variables depending on what you use your PC for. If you want better advice, PM me or stop by www.extremeoverclocking.com . I build and tweak these things all the time for maximum performance with the least amount of money spent as another expensive hobby.
Mike