going bigger and need suggestions
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going bigger and need suggestions
ok im getting ready to go bigger with my truck. im truning 16 in like 2 days the 14th but any way there a big debate at school whos going to have the biggest truck and i have always want the biggest truck. so i have the money and want to know bout what all i need to do.
i know i need to change gears, but what bout axles what should i do go with like a dana 60 in the rear and front or should i just up grade the axle with chromolys, and if so where the best place to get them?
i gettign ready to install a 9 inch skyjacker suspension lift and leave the 3 body so 12 total. but what size tire should i go with i thas to be bigger then 38.5s should i go with 40s or 42 maybe. i like the tsls and the ground hawgs but which one will last long?
i would also like to install a locker of some sort. should i go with an eletric, air or just a regular locker, maybe even a spool but im not sure the difference between a spool and a locker.
so let me know some ideas thanks.
i know i need to change gears, but what bout axles what should i do go with like a dana 60 in the rear and front or should i just up grade the axle with chromolys, and if so where the best place to get them?
i gettign ready to install a 9 inch skyjacker suspension lift and leave the 3 body so 12 total. but what size tire should i go with i thas to be bigger then 38.5s should i go with 40s or 42 maybe. i like the tsls and the ground hawgs but which one will last long?
i would also like to install a locker of some sort. should i go with an eletric, air or just a regular locker, maybe even a spool but im not sure the difference between a spool and a locker.
so let me know some ideas thanks.
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So the title should read: Rear gears,Locker & Lift Questions ?
Just a suggestion to put the topic in the title to help others.
Regarding your axle questions, the guys are going to need type of engine & Transmission in the truck.
Just a suggestion to put the topic in the title to help others.
Regarding your axle questions, the guys are going to need type of engine & Transmission in the truck.
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ground hogs wear like iron, but flat spot like crazy too, they are also a coupple inches under what they actually say they are, like a 40 is more like a 37-38.
if it was me i would swap in a 60 front (if you can fork over that kind of $$) and put chromo 35 spline in the rear with an ARB air locker and do the same in the front and mabey even think about a full floater conversion for the rear. http://www.jamesduff.com/eb/warn.html but definately go with 35 spline.
a spool is perminately locked, no differentail action at all, a locker has some if you let off the gas around corners. the arb is like a regular differential when it is off and when you activate it, it is like a spool.
im not sure if you can order a 3rd member from bronco graveyard with an arb or not, they dont list it and im not sure if you can special order stuff, but if you can that would be the way to go with gears for the rear end. the 60 front is going to run you probably around a grand and then gears, so that is going to probably be the most expensive part, with that lift you are also going to have to get new drive shafts.
if it was me i would swap in a 60 front (if you can fork over that kind of $$) and put chromo 35 spline in the rear with an ARB air locker and do the same in the front and mabey even think about a full floater conversion for the rear. http://www.jamesduff.com/eb/warn.html but definately go with 35 spline.
a spool is perminately locked, no differentail action at all, a locker has some if you let off the gas around corners. the arb is like a regular differential when it is off and when you activate it, it is like a spool.
im not sure if you can order a 3rd member from bronco graveyard with an arb or not, they dont list it and im not sure if you can special order stuff, but if you can that would be the way to go with gears for the rear end. the 60 front is going to run you probably around a grand and then gears, so that is going to probably be the most expensive part, with that lift you are also going to have to get new drive shafts.
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do you think it wouldbe easyier to go to a junk yard and pick up a dana 60 for the front instead of buying an new one? and what manufactuar shold i go with on the axles and is the going to be a big difference in strengh if i got from a dana 44 in the front with chromolys to a dana 60 ? and can you explain a full floating rear end?
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a dana 60 is probably going to be pretty hard to find and around a grand even from a junk yard if the people know what they have. a 9" is a semi floating rear end which means the bearings and axle shaft hold up the weight of the truck, in a full floater all the axle shafts do is turn the wheel which keeps axle breakage to a minimum if you wheel it hard with big tires. unless you have chromos in the front now i would go with a 60 and put chromos in that. another option for the rear is a dana 70 1ton axle, that way you wouldent have to run a 5-8 lug adapter in the rear. there is really no point in swapping out a 9" for a 60 becuase they are about equil in strength and the 9" has more ground clearance, but going to a 70 would be a good upgrade. also you are either going to have to do a coil spring conversion on the 60 or a leaf spring conversion on the truck for the 60 front. or if you dont plan to wheel it hard you could put chromo shafts in the 44 front. for brand i would go with yukon for axles and gears.
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would b cheaper gettin one out of a junkyard if you can find one that is good ...lol u must got money if you can buy a new dana 60...ther is this one guy on ebay that gets them and rebuilds them that gets about 2 grand for each front dana 60. my way of thinkin biggest truck isn't always the badass. you gotta have a motor to back ur big wheels up. Im 16 and I have a 1976 F250 that im redoin frame up...gonna have no lift on it except the added leafs in the back for the truck pulling im gonna be doing....got a 460 that im gettin the 501 stroker kit for it. then i have a older 429 that im using the heads and all the other stuff off of it. motor is gonna b pushin around 550hp...lol and be sure your buddys got a truck to pull your truck off of its roof.
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A 6" lift and a 3" body lift would easily clear 42s, you don't need the 9" and 3".
9"s of total lift will do fine. What do you plan on using the truck for, just a daily driver, or a fun toy to get rough with in the mud, rocks?
A stock 1/2 ton suspension can handle up to 39s with out blowing up, but any bigger than that, it would be best and easyer to install chromoly 35 spline inner and outer axle shafts.
A spool makes both tires spine the same speed all the time.
A locker(some are different, but basically)will let one tire turn faster than the other in turns, which means your tires won't start chirping on the road when your just turn.
I have a 79 Bronco(basically a F-150) with a 6" lift on stock axles, and I can run 39" tires, but couldn't afford them, and didn't have the extra money for chromoly shafts, so I run 36.8" SS Irocs, and I ONLY use it for the mud!
If you say alittle more what you'd use your truck for, then I could help you decide what you want to run, lockers front and rear? spools? ect....
9"s of total lift will do fine. What do you plan on using the truck for, just a daily driver, or a fun toy to get rough with in the mud, rocks?
A stock 1/2 ton suspension can handle up to 39s with out blowing up, but any bigger than that, it would be best and easyer to install chromoly 35 spline inner and outer axle shafts.
A spool makes both tires spine the same speed all the time.
A locker(some are different, but basically)will let one tire turn faster than the other in turns, which means your tires won't start chirping on the road when your just turn.
I have a 79 Bronco(basically a F-150) with a 6" lift on stock axles, and I can run 39" tires, but couldn't afford them, and didn't have the extra money for chromoly shafts, so I run 36.8" SS Irocs, and I ONLY use it for the mud!
If you say alittle more what you'd use your truck for, then I could help you decide what you want to run, lockers front and rear? spools? ect....
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That much lift isnt sumthin u can throw together in a few days. If i was going to go that high..first id get a 460 for those 40 er 42's cause the 351 mod is strong i have one but that alot of tire , then do all the other stuff, and dont forget the LITTLE things , like said above new drive shafts, brake lines, legal limits and things. It would sux to do all the werk for a cop to tell u take it down a few inches. Alinantment is another huge issue aswell when i start tear things apart make sure u take your time and do it right. body lifts are also alot of werk welding and extending things lowering things....u can go on for pages on the amount of werk is needed....but my point lots of werk and time hope yer ready 
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Originally Posted by Franken-Truck
Let someone else have the biggest truck, put your money into a motor and drive train that will pull his overgrown POS all over the school parking lot 
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lol i don't know if thats gonna work....here at PV in brodheadsville they did that and the truck that had 44 inch tires pulled the other truck backwards in 2wd and the lower one was in 4wd.
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well if one has a built 460, 10" lift, 44" tires and 5.13 gears and the other is a built 302 then ya, the big one is going to win. but by next summer im going to have a pretty built truck and i have a feeling that i will be able to pull my friends truck with a 460 around. unless of course he gets that blower that hes been looking at.