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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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i asked this question in another section but haven't got any answers. i have a '97 F-350 regular cab long box. its got 460 with 104800 miles and dosen't use a bit of oil, but it is dumpung too much fuel into the engine and blowing black smoke with i know it is just raw fuel coming out. i replaced the map sensor, O2 sensor, the coolant temp sensor and the EGR control modual but not the EGR valve. i don't know if it is a leaky injector or what it is. the motor is stock other that KnN cold air intake, and headers back to glasspacks without cats and duel 45 degree 4 inch tips. why is it doing this. PLEASE help.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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What's the base timing set at? Fuel Pressure, how much? How's driveability. Is the black smoke at startup or all the time. Walk the cap, do you have a dead hole. If you had a bad injector spitting fuel u would have a dead hole. I'm thinking u have a fuel pressure or timing problem.

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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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I will bet money on fuel preasure, you need to check it but I would almost gaurentee you the fuel preasure regulator is bad. just had a 92 with exactly the same symptoms replaced the regulator and all was good that is right after changine the oil too because as much as they can dump you could have contaminated the oil in the process.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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i am not 100% sure about the timing or fuel pressure but the truck drives like a million bucks on the highway. it never misses,chuges, or anything. when i start it in the morning, it runs awsome, but when it starts to get warm, then it starts to smoke. but i will check the pressure and the timing and go from there.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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on the hiway your running more fuel through the injectors and the fuel preasure is higher anyway, heck it probably runs better under hard throttle if the preasure regulator is stuck on full preasure, it's just at idle and light throttle that the high preasure will cause you most of your problems, once again your symptoms sound like high fuel preasure.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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yes the truck does run better at higher RPMs or even wide open. thenks for the advice
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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i changed the fuel regulator, it helped a little bit, but it still smokes when it gets warm
 
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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what color is the smoke?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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the smoke is black, so i know that it isn't burning any oil. the level on the dipstick never changes
 
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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Is it getting vacum at idle, The only thing that changes fuel pressure is vacum. Start the truck up and pull the line off on top of the regulator and make sure it has vacum.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 03:50 AM
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Another one that had skipped my mind, check the line going to the map sensor (witout going and looking I don't remember where exactly they are right now) make sure it's still attached and not cracked or broken and has vacumn at idle also.
 
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i will check the hoses, but i know that we did put a vaccum tester on one of the hoses and when it was running, it has vaccum. but when we shut the truck off it looses vaccume immidiatly?
 
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