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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Certainly the more modern Ford design is highly refined as compared to the ancient design of the Jeep. What I was expressing is that the natural charactetistics of the inline make it a smoother runner, not trying to compare individual motors. The v6 requires more damping to make it smooth than the inline.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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what do you mean by damping.

My bronco II has 140 hp and 170lbs torque, whichs seems a bigger curve over horsepower then the jeep. And thats a 2.9 with solid rocker arms.....i thinks its all one design then anything else...not just the arrangement of cylinders.

Do you know why the inline has more torque? i dnt see whats differnt that makes it that way...perhaps an i-six needs a bigger flywheel, intially making some more torque and smoother?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fordxfour87
my dads ford ranger has a 4.0 v6...210hp and 230lbs torque.....moms 2000 jeep 4.0 i-six 190hp, and 210lbs torque. theres no differnce in smoothness amoungst them, both are very smooth running. Do you think becase the ranger is sohc make it better, and more powerful then the i-six of its size?
the sohc v6 will make more power, but the 4.0 inline 6 will easily last twice as long, and also out powers the v6 in lower rpms.

jeeps [or amcs] 4.0 can be put on the list with fords 240-300 I6, chevys 292 I6, and the old school mopar slant sixes, as some of the toughest engines around.

take any v6 and inline 6 of the same size and era, you can bet the v6 will make more horse power but you also have to rev the crap out of it to make it do anything.

the inline 6 is a very stout engine, 7 mains, less stress on the side of the block, ginormous heavy crank, plus their the simplest engine to work on, and of course they simplely last forever.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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V-6's are made because they are short, which makes for a more compact car. Long hoods are not in style. Also, many of them are just made based on the existing design of a V-8, and share parts, for economy. They are a compromise, having fewer main bearings and relatively larger counterweights. The harmonic balancer on a V-6 has a much bigger job than that of an inline because it is much more difficult to balance out the natural harmonics generated by the crank. I don't know this for sure, but I would guess that a V-6 would require a larger flywheel for the same reason.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbo beam

take any v6 and inline 6 of the same size and era, you can bet the v6 will make more horse power but you also have to rev the crap out of it to make it do anything.
how high are you talking? lol unless you abuse the v6, during normal driving, the rpms are the same. Actually the redline on my 87 bronco II and mom 00 jeeps are the same, 5,000 rpm. And torque always occurs in lower rpms in any engine.

V6's do make for a small hood, the engine in my bronco, well, just the block is sooooo compact it not even funny, anyones whos seen this motor know what im talking about


So what lasts longer, just bearings? i assume once bearings go so will everything else though...
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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Most of the older inline engines have a longer stroke than more modern engines, which makes for a slow turning, high torque, long lived engine. Most of them are thisty, though, probably due to dated design. It's like the popular arguement Ford truck owners engage in- 300 six or 302 V-8. If you have heavy work to do, go with the six. The V-8 has more horsepower, but not the stump-pulling variety that a work truck needs. And as was said, most V-6's are derived from V-8's, so they have similar characteristics.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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I drive an old 81 ford with a 300 straight six in it and you just can't kill them. I have tried. These engines where designed to run mabe 4000 rpms at max and a I know I hit 5000 one night doing a burn out. The truck has 378,000 miles on it. It was rebuilt at 100,000 but is still running strong and not smoking.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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I agree with jay up top. People wanted more power is why they went to v6 instead of inline 6 engines. The horsepower is what these engines lacked but there torque is the best part. These engines don't rev fast but they will pull and lug. If you ever look almost all semi trucks have inline 6 engines. They tried v8 but the torque just wasn't there soon enough. They have to rev up to much. Cliford performace has a lot of good stuff for s6 engines for all makes and models made in america anyway.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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Not all inline sixes had seven main bearings. Inline sixes don't inherently produce more torque for a given displacement than other cylinder arrangements. However, because of the long (relative to a 4 or V-8) crankshaft, they were generally tuned to produce torque at lower (and thus avoid crankshaft whipping) rpms. Inline sixes also tended to be square or under-square designs, with long strokes, again conducive to low rpm torque. This was mostly because inline sixes became popular in the late 1920's and early 1930's, when getting cars moving with the least amount of shifting was more important than quick acceleration or high speeds. Ford, with the flathead V-8 was the noteable exception to inline sixes in lower priced cars (Chevy, Plymouth, Essex, Nash, Dodge, DeSoto, etc).
 
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Even the flathead V-8 has a long stroke, with the resulting low horsepower/high torque.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Inline 6 Club Again?

OK I found the logo to that club (or organization) buried in a file. You can see it in my sparse gallery. Does anyone know who uses this...looks like an actual badge.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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its on fordsixparts home page.i think it looks like a badge too.would be nice to have a couple of them
 
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fordxfour87
what do you mean by damping.
http://www.innerauto.com/Automotive_...ration_Damper/
 
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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ever seen the crank out of your everyday v6? offset rod journals so that they will fire smoother because of the whole 60 vs 90 degree thing
 
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Clifford Performance 6=8

Originally Posted by emgee
I have been trying endlessly to find the Inline 6 club or organization. It has a logo with a large "I' next to a numeral 6 in a (red ? ) circle. Does anyone have a lead on this graphic or organization. Thanks for any help.

www.cliffordperformance.net Is this what your looking for?
 
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