Dana 44
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Dana 44
Whats the biggest tire you would recommend to be run on a dana 44 with a 5.4 sending the power?
Just curious, I am no where near the cash for this project or time frame, but I just want to get some ideas.
What i want to do is a solid axel conversion on my truck (2000 f150 5.4) and eventually run it at the local mud bogs. I've read up on the fabritech kit and it seems like a pretty straight forward deal to do with the right tools whenever i get to it. Once all this happens this truck will probably become a dedicated offroader and i'll end up driving some economy car as a DD.
Anyway, what do you guys think? Is my truck up to the challenge for this kind of thing? would you go with the dana 44 or the dana 60?
Again, this is probably at least 2 years away before i even start this project, but just seeing if its feasable.
thanks for any info,
Paul
Edit: Also, i believe i have the 8.8 in the rear, does this need upgrading or would it hold up?
Just curious, I am no where near the cash for this project or time frame, but I just want to get some ideas.
What i want to do is a solid axel conversion on my truck (2000 f150 5.4) and eventually run it at the local mud bogs. I've read up on the fabritech kit and it seems like a pretty straight forward deal to do with the right tools whenever i get to it. Once all this happens this truck will probably become a dedicated offroader and i'll end up driving some economy car as a DD.
Anyway, what do you guys think? Is my truck up to the challenge for this kind of thing? would you go with the dana 44 or the dana 60?
Again, this is probably at least 2 years away before i even start this project, but just seeing if its feasable.
thanks for any info,
Paul
Edit: Also, i believe i have the 8.8 in the rear, does this need upgrading or would it hold up?
Last edited by captain p4; Mar 5, 2006 at 07:30 PM.
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If your serious about bogging it, the Dana 60 front axle will hold up better than a 44. You could save enough money to buy that dana 60 by skipping the Fabritech kit and doing it yourself. It's not that difficult to do. I just finished an sas on my 94 supercab- https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...&albumid=19925
I went with a dana 44 on 40 inch ground hawgs but I don't plan on wheeling this one too hard. I'm going to use my bronco for that. As for the 8.8 I would ditch it for a Sterling 1 ton rear. Just continue doing like your doing- search around and ask questions. You'll have a solid plan before too long. Good luck!
Tony
I went with a dana 44 on 40 inch ground hawgs but I don't plan on wheeling this one too hard. I'm going to use my bronco for that. As for the 8.8 I would ditch it for a Sterling 1 ton rear. Just continue doing like your doing- search around and ask questions. You'll have a solid plan before too long. Good luck!
Tony
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Thats the problem, I don't think many people have done the SAS on a 97+ f150 and I really don't know what i'm doing. The kit would be the easiest way for me i think, unless there is some guide i don't know about.
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Originally Posted by KubotaOrange76
i htought all teh 5.4 trucks had the 9.75 rear?
you shouldnt have to worry about it, they are 33? spline i think...very tough housing
you shouldnt have to worry about it, they are 33? spline i think...very tough housing
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A dana 44 can hold up to 36-38" tires for some decent mudding, but if you do any rocks, then it can be put into more of a bind and stuff might break. I've seen people with a D44 and 44" tires, but just for show and to ride around(a waste of tires and money)and still the D44 goes through ball and rag joints.
A D60 would be the prefered route to go, since you have time, wait till you can get one. They quite using the 8.8 in 1/2 ton trucks in 96.
A D60 would be the prefered route to go, since you have time, wait till you can get one. They quite using the 8.8 in 1/2 ton trucks in 96.
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That's new info to me. I thought the 8.8 was gone by 96. Or at least I thought is should have been.
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Dana 44 - 35" tires if you'e gonna be rough with her, 36-37 tires if you are smarter and pick your lines better. In the mud, not so bad, but in the rocks with a fullsize rigs, you're probably going to see carnage if you wheel very hard with the 35's even - get a wheel spinning and bring it back down on a rock, you'll have a good chance of popping a U-joint which will probably nuke the ear of the axle shaft at the same time. Not good.
Here's a question, anybody have a url for the full circle clips for the U-joints? I'd like to use them when I do my SAS..if the cap stays in place then you have a less chance of blowing hte cap and losing the joint (which I think might have been part of my blowing my rear 1330, only recovered 1 of the two half clips that blew out, but found both caps).
Here's a question, anybody have a url for the full circle clips for the U-joints? I'd like to use them when I do my SAS..if the cap stays in place then you have a less chance of blowing hte cap and losing the joint (which I think might have been part of my blowing my rear 1330, only recovered 1 of the two half clips that blew out, but found both caps).
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8.8" are in every truck upto 2003 except for 5.4s, they have the 9.75 (and the 7700s have 10.25s).. this might have changed in '04 but I am not sure...
A Dana 44 will hold up to 38s in mud, but you'll break once in a while for sure.. go chromo & ctm, you probably good for 38s all the time.
A Dana 44 will hold up to 38s in mud, but you'll break once in a while for sure.. go chromo & ctm, you probably good for 38s all the time.
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The main problem with keeping the stock rear end when doing a SAS is the bolt pattern is metric on the '97 up F150s.
I was really looking into doin the swap on my '99 F150, and I'm still kicking myself for not doing it. Maybe if I decide to keep my '03 for a few more years, once she gets around 100,000 on it i'll do the swap on it. I would go 1 ton if I did the swap and skip over the kit and make it all myself.
I was really looking into doin the swap on my '99 F150, and I'm still kicking myself for not doing it. Maybe if I decide to keep my '03 for a few more years, once she gets around 100,000 on it i'll do the swap on it. I would go 1 ton if I did the swap and skip over the kit and make it all myself.
