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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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I have one answer for the people that say one of the planes that hit the WTC, was a cargo plane, and what hit the pentegon was a missle. Lets for the moment say that is true, ok we then have 2 plane loads of people that are missing so where did they go? I mean if your gonna do something like that you would have to make them disappear forever, right? which means taking those planes either out over the ocean and crashing them, or taking them to a secret air base somewhere killing all hte people and destroying the aircraft. If this was a conspiracy and for the moment once again lets assume it was, no one and I mean no one in there right mind or even a twisted sick individual would go through all that trouble when instead of doing something that might raise questions they could just crash the planes into the buildings are described which basically blows a hole in hte entire conspiracy idea because it's all based on the assumption that what hit those building isn't what we think hit them, DUH
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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They were taken monsterbaby. Haven't you seen 4400? Duuuhhh.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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i was at a plane crash some 25 plus years ago a huge four engine cargo jet, it came down in the woods hitting pine trees, theres was nothing let but the engines!
a jet hitting a steel and or concrete building would fair even less!

anyone who believes the trade center murders were anything else is smoking crack!!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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fine--explain why the third building beside the wtc towers was never touched by anything-but went down?????
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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I can't remember. Huge fire???
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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Ok. Let's actually stop and oh I don't know, THINK ABOUT THIS. Yes I do know what I'm talking about it, there are few things more I have read into than this.

An airliner. It's made of aluminum. You run aluminum into something hard at that sort of speed, you can get the picture.

These planes don't fly into a building and just stop. They disintegrate. Along with everything inside of them. I have a fairly comprehensive book at my house talking of the force produced when a 767 hits a tower such as in 9/11. Remember also, the 757 that went into the Pentagon crashed short of the actual building, therefore dissipaiting a great amount of energy and thus causing far less damage than if it had been a direct hit. The impact against the Pentagon was also much smaller because of the size difference between a 757 and 767.

The myth that a military plane hit the second tower is downright BS. Anybody in lower Manhatten that day would say that. Pretty hard to mistake a passenger airliner for a military aircraft.

How do you explain the wreckage found, the people missing, the air traffic control tapes, the 60 million dollar airplanes belonging to American and United which just dissappeared? How do you explain a reason for the government wanting to do this to it's own INNOCENT people?

You can't, because there isn't one.

Do me a favor, go over to Iraq and tell my cousin and his unit this story. Take them the videos, give them your best shot. If you reach the American borders again in one peice, you'll be proud of the freedoms you have here.
 

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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As far as the Trade Center attack goes, my son and I watched the second plane hit LIVE on television and I have a friend that was in line to get on the PATH train (from NJ to NYC) that goes directly under the center. She was late for work that day (luckily) and watched the second plane fly in and then strike the building. What I and she saw were commercial planes not "cargo planes painted with windows"! When you view the damage to the Trade Center exterior there is not much in the way of plane debris in sight either. Mass continues to travel in the direction it was headed in prior to and during impact with an object. IF the other object is moving (which is obviously NOT an issue here) the debris resting place will also be affected by the direction/speed of the other object. I always keep an open mind in all these incidents and love a good debate. I just can't believe the govt. would concoct a fabrication THIS large just to ...DO WHAT?!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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People (and maybe Americans moreso than some others) really love to play analyst/forensics expert. Only problem being, most of the people who play forensics expert are, in fact, NOT forensics experts! Wow!

Keep this in mind when you are watching anything that pertains to 9/11, and ESPECIALLY anything on the internet: Just because it FEELS like someone has proven something, doesn't mean they HAVE.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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You want an eyewitness report and fair assumption of what is going on at the WTC, watch this vid. About two hours, must have high speed internet. Make your own assumptions.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7461603&q=9+11
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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How do you explain the wreckage found, the people missing, the air traffic control tapes, the 60 million dollar airplanes belonging to American and United which just dissappeared? How do you explain a reason for the government wanting to do this to it's own INNOCENT people?
With enough money, my man, you can do anything.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 01:17 AM
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You want an eyewitness report and fair assumption of what is going on at the WTC, watch this vid. About two hours, must have high speed internet. Make your own assumptions.
I am about as much of a conspiracy nut as anyone I love that stuff, heck I don't believe the goverment wasn't involved with timothy McVey blowing up the federal building in OKC, and can prove a dozen reasons for it. I believe about half the pictures of the moon landings are fabrications, etc, etc. but I have watched the videos, several times and all the "proof" that 9/11 was a goverment conspiracy is based on false premises (see my previous post). There is just no proof that anything but a bunch of crazy islamic radicals hijacked 4 airplanes and flew them into some buildings. Take the other building that fell without bieng hit, ok so then I guess the earthquakes in California all must be goverment conspiracy too, I mean look at all the buildings and bridges that fall down without bieng struck by anything at all. There is more than actual physical hits at work here there is a tremendous amount of force applied when something the size of the WTC comes down.
I can see 19 guys getting away with something like this but in order for it to be a conspiracy there would have to be thousands of people involved in the planning and cover up of something this large and people can't keep thier mouths shut, and planning and pulling off something that large would take more than a couple of years to get it done........oh wait then that would mean the person that started this was not George Bush but was rather Bill Clinton.
I agree there are parts of this that the goverment is hiding for some reason, like the gas station tapes adn I have no idea why but the conspiracy theory on this just plain doesn't hold water at all any way shape or form there is way to many stupid things that would have to be assumeed to be true that don't make sense in a conspiracy to make it true.
Once again it's just a bunch of crazy people doing something really stupid, as much as people want George Bush to be an evil, evil man, and maybe he is maybe he isn't he didn't plan and execute this.
 
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