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take offs
So I have developed a strange problem this winter. Never had it before, can't figure out why it is happening. After those weird snows that are light and powdery that make the roads slick, I have the hardest time taking off in first gear, and trying with second doesn't help. No matter how slow or fast i let off the clutch the tires spin like crazy for up to ten seconds. It is rather annoying when people are behind me at a light and think i'm asleep. Sometimes i just have to fishtail on purpose to get going.
Anyway, my tires are quite new and have a lot of tread, i have 210 pounds in the bed (same as always) so i can't figure out why this problem is occuring this winter when i never had it before. Something with the clutch? i'm clueless.
Anyway, my tires are quite new and have a lot of tread, i have 210 pounds in the bed (same as always) so i can't figure out why this problem is occuring this winter when i never had it before. Something with the clutch? i'm clueless.
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Almost sounds like your clutch is grabbing too good. How worn is it? Mileage on it?
john112deere is right. Some times just can't take the snow. We don't get snow around here (ice occasionally, rain every now and then), so I'm not too familiar with it. I do know that on a slick, wet, or icy road, taking off in second provides absolutely no trouble, and first works fine if I'm careful about it.
What engine do you have? It'd be a lot easier to slip and slide with a 4.0 than 2.3, more torque to harness and apply slowly.
So...how much mileage on the clutch? Also more details on your truck would help. Engine, tranny, rear end, tires, etc.
john112deere is right. Some times just can't take the snow. We don't get snow around here (ice occasionally, rain every now and then), so I'm not too familiar with it. I do know that on a slick, wet, or icy road, taking off in second provides absolutely no trouble, and first works fine if I'm careful about it.
What engine do you have? It'd be a lot easier to slip and slide with a 4.0 than 2.3, more torque to harness and apply slowly.
So...how much mileage on the clutch? Also more details on your truck would help. Engine, tranny, rear end, tires, etc.
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Yeah sorry for not giving specs. The engine is a 2.3, stick, standard tires. I did get the tires since last winter so maybe they are just weird. I have the original clutch with 91k miles on it, but it feels great so i guess i'd be inclined to blame it on the tires.
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Standard tires...yeah they don't grip great. That's what I would suspect. You don't mention where you live, so I'll suggest you pick up a good all-season tire, great grip for winter and awesome for summer. 91K isn't much on a clutch if you're good at it, so I'm thinkin' tires as well.
Not like that 2.3 is gonna burn out lol. What rear end you got?
Not like that 2.3 is gonna burn out lol. What rear end you got?
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I use those 70# sand tubes for weight(5=350#), and I built a rack out of 2x4's to keep them over the rear axle , so when I stop they don't slide up to the cargo wall. When it snows, and I don't have those tubes in the box , man, I can't get going to save my life. With them in, I go like I have a 4x4, but you still can't just take off like a bat out of hell, you have to feather the clutch so it'll grab with hardly any gas pedal, and if she starts slippin' and slidin', I just keep on shifting, and playin' the gas pedal till it gets straight and I'm movin' on down the road... I live about 25 miles due west of O'hare Airport in Chicago..
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25 miles west of O'hare, good ref for me being the pilot, and I can suddenly imagine the snow.
I'd definetly look into new tires. By what rear end I mean the ratio. If you climb underneath your truck, there SHOULD be a tag on the far right lower bolt of the rear diff with a number written on it of the ratio. Like I have a 3.08, so my tag says 3 08. Well it did...but I took it off. It's easy to get going in a 3.08. If you have a 3.73 or 4.10 for example though, it'll be more of a balancing act.
I'd definetly look into new tires. By what rear end I mean the ratio. If you climb underneath your truck, there SHOULD be a tag on the far right lower bolt of the rear diff with a number written on it of the ratio. Like I have a 3.08, so my tag says 3 08. Well it did...but I took it off. It's easy to get going in a 3.08. If you have a 3.73 or 4.10 for example though, it'll be more of a balancing act.
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Thanks for the responses! I have the 3.08 gears so from what you have said it should be easier. What makes this so strange is that this winter (in Northeast Ohio) has been mild compared to past winters but I only have had this problem this year. From now on i'll pay the premium for good tires. That is the only thing that has changed from last winter to this so i'm going to bet it is the tires. anyway, thanks again for the responses.
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