Permatex Navel Jelly- Does it work?
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Permatex Navel Jelly- Does it work?
Did a quick search on this forum, and it seems the answer for most would be no.
I bought some of the "level 3 rust dissolver" with a recommendation from a friend. He said his dad used it on his 49 Ford, and that it ate all the rust back to good metal. So I gave it a chance. Tested it on an old Radio Flyer we had laying in the yard. It did absolutely nothing. But I figured maybe it was because it was just surface rust, and by "dissolver" they mean full on rust fighting action, which was the intent for buying.
I then tried it on the floors in my van (thought it is quite ironic that you have to wash it off with water, lol). It foamed a little, then nothing. I waited 15 or so min then washed it off. Didn't appear to do anything, at all.
I guess I'm fond of marketing ploys, it says on the bottle "if rust remains, apply second coat", must be one of the greatest.
Was I doing something wrong or just given false hope by friends and suppliers? I don't really mind the 4 bucks I spent on it, except I have nothing to do with this near full bottle that doesn't seem to do anything at all.
I bought some of the "level 3 rust dissolver" with a recommendation from a friend. He said his dad used it on his 49 Ford, and that it ate all the rust back to good metal. So I gave it a chance. Tested it on an old Radio Flyer we had laying in the yard. It did absolutely nothing. But I figured maybe it was because it was just surface rust, and by "dissolver" they mean full on rust fighting action, which was the intent for buying.
I then tried it on the floors in my van (thought it is quite ironic that you have to wash it off with water, lol). It foamed a little, then nothing. I waited 15 or so min then washed it off. Didn't appear to do anything, at all.
I guess I'm fond of marketing ploys, it says on the bottle "if rust remains, apply second coat", must be one of the greatest.
Was I doing something wrong or just given false hope by friends and suppliers? I don't really mind the 4 bucks I spent on it, except I have nothing to do with this near full bottle that doesn't seem to do anything at all.
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Just a side note. For small parts that can be soaked, look for a product in a blue bottle called "Rust Doctor" You soak things in it, it is not an acid or alkaline htey say (Then what is it ?, a base ?)
It does work very well, but it takes some time. I soaked my tailgate hinges and hood latch in it & it worked wonders over a period of 2-3 days.
It does work very well, but it takes some time. I soaked my tailgate hinges and hood latch in it & it worked wonders over a period of 2-3 days.
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Well this seems odd to me. Obvisouly people have different opinions on how well it is suppose to work, but why so many hit or miss?
What, exactly, is it supposed to do?
What, exactly, is it supposed to do?
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Fattmann, it is great for removing surface rust and rust that has found its way into crevices. Since it's a gel, it will stick to vertical surfaces. Once I removed my quarter panels (78 Bronco) I used it to remove the light rust that was on the inner tub and it worked great. I also used it to get rid of rust in the bed and passenger compartment and again, it worked great. I would suspect that those not having good results aren't using it properly. It works great.
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hey JeremyH
where do you get your hands on phosphouric acid? all i can find is muratic acid. or is muratic acid stronger? i want to use it to get my hood ready to prime and bondo. thats what i want to use the acids for. getting the old paint and some little surface rust off.
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ohh. i have used the jelly to remove old bluing from gun barrels to refinish them. it works great for that. never have tryed it for anything else.
where do you get your hands on phosphouric acid? all i can find is muratic acid. or is muratic acid stronger? i want to use it to get my hood ready to prime and bondo. thats what i want to use the acids for. getting the old paint and some little surface rust off.
thanks
Mitch
ohh. i have used the jelly to remove old bluing from gun barrels to refinish them. it works great for that. never have tryed it for anything else.
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I used naval jelly to get all of the rust of off an old vertical/horizontal mill that had been sitting around for years. The table was full of rust as well as all of the ways and pretty much everything that had bare metal was rusted. The naval jelly worked wonders!! It did take quite a few coats on some of the thick stuff, but with a lot of patience and elbow grease it looks almost like new now!! Between naval jelly and purple power it's a brand new machine!!!
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You have to use a generous amount, since as it works it becomes chemically weaker, and working it in with a brush will bring fresh chemical where it's needed.
And remove as much rust as possible mechanically first; sandblasting is best, but wirebrushing is better than nothing.
There's various products with phosphoric acid, like Ospho (sp?) and "metal prep", and some of those mineral deposit removing cleaners at the grocery store.
And remove as much rust as possible mechanically first; sandblasting is best, but wirebrushing is better than nothing.
There's various products with phosphoric acid, like Ospho (sp?) and "metal prep", and some of those mineral deposit removing cleaners at the grocery store.
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