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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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Why is it no one has ever mentioned usig a different cam? For all the performance things discussed, this and headwork just aren't talked about. What's the deal?6.0<!-- ST_SEAL_HTML_END -->
<TABLE cellSpacing=28 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>2032 crane hi roller for ford powerstroke. has approx. 55 degrees more duratrion at .050" tappet lift than stock camshaft, lift increased by .120" over stock. very good camshaft for upper rpm horspower output ideal for hi fueled engines, multiple stage turbo/supercharger installs and propane injection, reduces cylinder static compression approx. 50-75 psi.

neccessary to check piston/valve clearance before installtion

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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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my Diesel Tech instructor was talking a few days ago how no one makes an aftermarket cam for the Powerstrokes. i guess he was wrong. the way most Powerstroke performance guys do it, is cut the round part of the cam down so that they can adjust the lifters to still contact them. leave the lobes alone. so when the lobe comes around, the lifter is pushed up higher, which also means more lift on the valve. but if you go too much lift, the piston may help the valve close, which ISNT good. ill try to make a paint drawing.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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where did you find this? I checked crane .com and didn't find anything?

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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
the piston may help the valve close, which ISNT good. ill try to make a paint drawing.
10-4 Zero Clearance is just that. Home grinding seems just a little crude and I can only imagine the valve train clatter like it isn't noisy enough now.

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where did you find this? I checked crane .com and didn't find anything?

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I was sitting here thinking about it, did a google and an ebay came back:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ford-...QQcmdZViewItem
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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its on ebay, look at the URL of the thing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ford-...spagenameZWDVW
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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look at all the other powerstroke stuff this guy has on ebay.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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yeah, I think he's serious.

So exacly where is north central Md? Upper Marlboro perhaps?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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Why is it no one has ever mentioned usig a different cam? For all the performance things discussed, this and headwork just aren't talked about. What's the deal?
The reason is because there is very little horsepower benefit to camming a diesel engine, especially a turbocharged one. Cams help out a gas engine becuase gassers try to burn all the oxygen up each time the cylinder is fired, so more air from a bigger cam means that more fuel can be added. Our engines are already getting way more air than they can use, hence no benefit to a cam unless you already have much bigger than stock injectors and turbo.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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Also on a turbo gas engine the cam duration is very short compared to a NA engine. With forced induction they keep the duration short so you don't have a bunch of turbo lag.
 
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''very good camshaft for upper rpm horspower ''


but in a diesel you want low end torque correct? you would be moving it outside its powerband.
 
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
''very good camshaft for upper rpm horspower ''


but in a diesel you want low end torque correct? you would be moving it outside its powerband.
Very good point. You would be de-tuning your PSD by putting in a big cam.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by clux
The reason is because there is very little horsepower benefit to camming a diesel engine, especially a turbocharged one. Cams help out a gas engine becuase gassers try to burn all the oxygen up each time the cylinder is fired, so more air from a bigger cam means that more fuel can be added. Our engines are already getting way more air than they can use, hence no benefit to a cam unless you already have much bigger than stock injectors and turbo.
Tell that to all the dodge guys. everyone of the high hp dodges has an aftermarket cam. Also to deal with the valve/piston clearance pistons might need to be cut.


Originally Posted by ford390gashog
''very good camshaft for upper rpm horspower ''


but in a diesel you want low end torque correct? you would be moving it outside its powerband.
Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
Very good point. You would be de-tuning your PSD by putting in a big cam.
No your just tuning it to run in the mid-upper rpms, its where the drag racers and sled pullers spend most of their time. There has been camshaft options out for some time now. None that i know of have been proven to work well, however there is still several in testing. I wont be putting an aftermarket cam in mine, just too big of risk and very hard to swap out later if it doesnt work.


Oh btw, the seller of the cam is the same guy who has teh supercharged stock turboed 650hp psd with pmr's if that tells you anything.
 

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Tell that to all the dodge guys. everyone of the high hp dodges has an aftermarket cam. Also to deal with the valve/piston clearance pistons might need to be cut.
Build a 7.3 to the hp/torque level that those guys are running, and yeah, it's gonna help........right up to the moment the bottom end internals of your engine jumps out onto the pavement.

It's a sad truth, those cummins can take a lot more than our cornbinders.
 
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I dont mean to sound "special" but you dont know the right people . There is stuff happening that is gonna really break things open for the 7.3. How do you think bdp bend forged rods into pretzels in 8 miles? It wasnt from making 400 hp, he never made it to the dyno but he was clearing up 400cc's of fuel with a big single charger. Yes he should have had billet con rods, but he was wanting to test some other stuff out to see if it was going to even work. Billet rods are on the way or maybe even there, keep your eyes and ears open bdp is gonna do some neat stuff.
 
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