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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Red face Missing around 45 MPH

2000 V10 250 Lariat CC 83,000 miles

Have owned for a year. Drove on a 400 miles trip last weekend, ran beautifully.

Upon return home, filled up and parked ...Sunday night.

Today, have a miss @ 45 mph. Does not want to cut off, just poor idle and definite miss.

Any ideas? I have already checked the hose to the throttle body and
the COPs to see if loose. To my knowledge, plugs have never been changed.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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Get the misfire counters read, that'll tell you which (if any) cylinder is actually missing.

You'll need to go to Ford or a good mechanic (Autozone might know how, and it's free).

Then, get a new COP and put it on that cylinder and see if it makes a difference. If not, change the plug and try again. (Reason I say new COP is because moving that one COP to another cylinder and getting the misfires re-read could cost more than a new COP).

Or, once you know which cylinder it is, remove the COP and plug and make sure they are clean and not wet/dirty. If there's water or dirt down there, clean everything up, blow air down the hole to blow out the dirt BEFORE removing the plug, then loosen a full turn, and blow again.

art k.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Ford hit me for $80 to run the test. They hook up the reader and take it for a test drive. If you have them by you, NAPA sells the COPs for a bit less than the dealerships.

At that milage, I'd think about replacing all of the spark plugs anyway, just for peace of mind.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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T Squared and krewat

Tried to self diagnose first ... using one COP .. no luck, still missing.
Took to Ford ... 2 COPs dead (figures), no wonder I could not locate
#2, #7 ... Ford replaced both and all plugs.

Thanks for the help .. The BEAST has awakened !!!!
 
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Cool. Typically they give up the ghost one at a time, but 2 at once....bummer. But with new plugs and all 10 coils firing, she's gotta be one happy V-10 again!!!
 
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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NICE! Good luck with it!
 
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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is their any other way to test the coil over plug?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Thefordmann
is their any other way to test the coil over plug?
Use a multimeter and check resistance between a known good one and a suspect one. That's about it - otherwise, you can plug it into a plug and the wiring harness, ground the spark plug to the motor with a test clip and see if it sparks

However, they are known to fail for thermal reasons - expansion and contraction will make or break the connection, so unless you heat the thing up to 200 degrees F, you'll never know if it's really faulty or not.

One other thing.

Every time I read the title to this thread "Missing around 45 MPH" I think "Torque Converter lockup clutch slipping".
 
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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How exactly do you check it with the Ohm meter? What exactly am I looking for? What should the resistance be? I want to be sure my COP is bad before I put the new one on. My plug (not very old) does look bad, but beore I replace just it...I wanted to make sure my COP IS actually bad too. What stinks is that I've replaced both only about 1.5 years ago. Coil#4 and all 8 plugs. #4 is misfiring again...
 
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Like I said, compare a good one to the "bad" one...

However, chances are it's a heat-related thing, so unless you cool down and heat up the COP while testing it, you might not see any problems with it.

I'd switch that "bad" COP with a known good one and see if the misfire follows it, but then, unless you have your own scan tool, that's going to cost (although Autozone does it free).
 
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Missing on 3 cylindars

I'm missing on #3-6-8 cylindars I have a 2000 v10 I switched the coil packs on these cylindars with 3 other good ones and the same 3 cylindars are still missing according to my scan tool! Im going to get a set of ford sparkplugs and put some injector fluid through it, dose anyone else have any suggestions????
 
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Texex,

How much did they charge you to change the COP and plugs?
I think I have a COP failing..
 
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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UPDATE: I changed my #4 COP AGAIN...since last year. Only this time I checked better the heater hose running above it. I checked last year with my hand and thought it was tight. This time I put a little wrench in my palm and pushed on it and it spun right around and of course some antifreeze/coolant came out. Since I spun it aropund I tightened much more (putting a towel down below so it wouldn't drip/run out around the #4 cyl. Once finshed with the hose I put n a new plug and the new coil on #4 and have not had any miss since. It's been a week now. Oh...I ended up buying my COP from O'Reilly since they had a lifetime warrantly for $53 vs. no warranty on the $48 dollar one at Autozone, where I usually buy most things.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Will a scanner pick up a misfire if the check engine light isn't lit? My truck hasn't acted up since, but i would like to make sure it's fixed and I don't get stranded..
 
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