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From: Columbia, MO
Originally Posted by surfclam
Dont want to cause a stir here but yes the Kwik filter mod DOES suck in hot underhood air. These engines need as cold air as you can give them. Being from the cooler Northwest, maybe it'll be ok for you, but where I live, if I have one of those on my truck, I'm sucking in at least 200 degee air in the summer, and I dont think thats optimal air temp performance-wise. Look for cold air intakes or the AIS system. Sorry Kwikfilter users-no offense.
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From: NorCal
Originally Posted by 4DS4EVR
Also I would like to mount guages in a different location than the A-pillar. Are there any other kits that don't look like dogmeat?
http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?c...mode=cat_click
I forgot what site it was but they had actualy pictures of the pods mounted with gauges in them. Why not the A-pillar? It's an excellent place for gauges, you don't have to take your eye off the road for too long to glance at the gauges; easier wiring routing too
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From: NJ
JT, no hard data, just a few articles I've seen in magazines, one was Diesel Power. Makes sense tho-only air coming to the engine is thru the radiator[restricted], and from underneath the truck. Where does that hot air escape? Out the bottom?
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Dale Isley of Tymar said he has measured underhood temperatures. Standing still, the temp rises to high levels, but as soon as the truck starts moving the temperature drops quickly, avaraging 15 to 20 degrees higher than outside.
Now, is cold air better? Absolutely! And when I have a little time, I'm planning to design a box with cold air intake. Don't forget, the way Kwik's mod works, air from the intake snorkel is still funneled toward the air filter - espcially if the zoo-dad mod is done (is that the right name?)
However, I'd rather have clean, underhood air than have to deal with the leaking stock air box which supplies cooler dusty air to the engine.
One other point - the stock snorkel is a great idea. It takes cold air from - where, exactly? The grill? Not exactly. While I'm sure the air is cooler than air next to the engine, notice the design - the snorkel opens up under the hood, next to the radiator, behind a piece of sheet metal that blocks the snorkel from most of that nice, cold air. Seems it needs some modification to get that cold air to the engine.
Now, is cold air better? Absolutely! And when I have a little time, I'm planning to design a box with cold air intake. Don't forget, the way Kwik's mod works, air from the intake snorkel is still funneled toward the air filter - espcially if the zoo-dad mod is done (is that the right name?)
However, I'd rather have clean, underhood air than have to deal with the leaking stock air box which supplies cooler dusty air to the engine.
One other point - the stock snorkel is a great idea. It takes cold air from - where, exactly? The grill? Not exactly. While I'm sure the air is cooler than air next to the engine, notice the design - the snorkel opens up under the hood, next to the radiator, behind a piece of sheet metal that blocks the snorkel from most of that nice, cold air. Seems it needs some modification to get that cold air to the engine.
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From: Columbia, MO
Originally Posted by DavidT.
Why not the A-pillar? It's an excellent place for gauges, you don't have to take your eye off the road for too long to glance at the gauges; easier wiring routing too
Originally Posted by surfclam
JT, no hard data, just a few articles I've seen in magazines, one was Diesel Power. Makes sense tho-only air coming to the engine is thru the radiator[restricted], and from underneath the truck. Where does that hot air escape? Out the bottom?
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for the users who do the kwik filter, it would best benefit them to do the ZooDad also. it is cutting a hole in the driver's side radiator shroud. this allows incoming air a STRAIGHT shot into the filter. i can stand outside my truck with hood down and actually see part of the filter. i covered it back up accidentally when i did my Poor Man's Cold-Front, and the EGT's went up to 650-700* cruising on flat ground. with the grille without a restrictive cold front, my EGT's are about 500* when just loping down the road. think of the cold front as a "cover" for the zoodad hole.
here is a pic of my zoo dad, it is relatively large, i believe it is larger than most others.
see the filter?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...t/DSCF2393.jpg
here is a pic of my zoo dad, it is relatively large, i believe it is larger than most others.
see the filter?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...t/DSCF2393.jpg
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Yeah, thanks, Kwik. I've not noticed any problem with my Tymar filter setup, but I do notice that people who sell open element filters have one set of data, and people who do NOT sell open element filters claim a different set of data.
A third party source would be nice.
A third party source would be nice.