what are the pros and cons about using propane and is it hard to instal? I am new to this and I shaw it on a truck show and i thouhg tabout doing it. not sure where I would put the tanks though and how i would use it is still a question.
Is it continual or is it like NOS just like push a button? I know this might be funny to some but agian I am new to trucks.

 

well when you convert a truck to propane it becomes your primary fuel, it's not like nitrous and propane is very expensive so i really see no point in doing this

 

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I thought it was like nitrous...either push on a button or a wide open throttle switch.

 

so you thinikk it is not a good upgrade that is good to know. I found it online as well and it is not a cheap upgrade in the slighest thank you for your opinion if someone eles has a different out look please fill me in. I guess i should through it out there what about NOS is it still going to be primary?

 

i thought he was talking about a propane conversion like the same way a forklift works

 

no not the conversion but the injection system im sure of that it says online that it increases hp throttle reps and increases fuel milage

 

I beleive you're referring to using propane as a fuel suppliment, in addition to diesel, as a performance modification. I'll give you a quick run down of what I learned when I researched the propane system.

The Pros: Significantly improved HP and Torque, extended drive times (you'll go further on a tank of fuel) and better efficiency. Of course the better MPG is offset by the cost of the propane you're burning as well, but most who run the system claim they still come out with better efficiency then Diesel alone.

The Cons: May heighten your EGT (exhaust gas temp) somewhat so it would be prudent to have an aftermarket 4 or 5 inch exhaust system (more $ if you don't already have one) The systems aren't cheap 500-800 dollars depending on the system plus the cost of the tank itself. There is also the additional risk you accept by installing the system also. Propane is much more folitile then diesel and a leak or failure in the system always poses the risk of explosion. These systems all have disclaimers removing all responsibility for their products onto the user. If you mess it up and you blow up your engine.... your problem, not theirs.

Some of the common systems our there are the Powershot 2000 which many of our members are quite find of, and also the MSD DPI (digital propane injection).

There are 2 types of propane systems. Fluid and Vapor. Vapor systems are typically less complicated (powershot 2000) in that they take propane vapor from
There are 2 types of systems out there. Fluid and Vapor systems. Vapor systems utilize a propane vapor taken from the top of a propane tank and through a regulator that relates to turbo boost pressure. At zero boost pressure, there is no propane supplied to the intake, and it increases as the boost pressure increases. The propane on all the systems available inject the propane into the intake tube before the turbo charger.

Fluid propane systems are a little different (MSD DPI) in that they require a propane tank with a syphon connection so that they can take fluid propane from the bottom of the propane tank. The fluid propane is then put through an evaporator chamber that is warmed with engine coolant. When the fluid faporizes, and is injected into the aintake through a regulator like the vapor system that relates to turbo boost. Theses systems are a little more complicated then vapor systems and require a great deal more safety devices to ensure that the engine is up to temperature and that the unit does not inject liquid propane into the enginer (you'd be sorry if it did). The MSD kit is pretty neat though and allowd custom tuning by hooking it up to a PC. Its pretty neat. You can check it out on MSD's website.

Both systems work by introducing additional fuel to the engine which supposedly allows the diesel to burn more completely, and cleaner, therefor improving both power and efficiency. I'm not going to get into a chemistry lecture here, but I will tell you this. It does work.

Propane scares a lot of people because there ARE horror stories out there. I believe it can be used trouble free and as long as you don't abuse it, I doubt it would effect your engine life at all. Some may disagree however and think it is a stupid risk to take when there are so many other SAFER ways to make power in these engines (exhaust, chip, turbo upgrades, intake upgrades, etc) I was going to pursue it because I wanted to improve the efficiency of my vehicle, but I decided there were other upgrades I'd rather spend my time and money on (regulated fuel return system).

Ok, i think thats about it. This thread has probably already been moved to the Propane forum while I've been typing.... you can find lots of good into my searching for "Propane" in the Propane and alternate fuel forum.

 

ok, so maybe that wasn't such a QUICK rundown... more of a THOROUGH run down, haha.

And to further answer your question. Most of the systems can be turned on and off inside the cab of the truck. Some of the systems are even adjustable from inside the truck (Powershot 2000, i think) When they are on, however, they only supply propane to the engine when you need it. You can sit and idle all day long and it won't use an ounce of propane. But when you're climbing a hill while towing a trailer behind you, its most definitely on and working then.

 

wow you answered my question compltely and I was just told of the purchase that my wife is going to make and that means not new parts as of now. she is buying me a dog an weimaramer i think that is how it is spelled lol so yeah that is a lot of money GONE so like i said thanks for the help and I will be getting back to you and this subject when I get some money saved up.

 

wow, that is a great explanation(s) above. i left some reputation points for you.

 

Thanks Strokin_it7.3

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