Lube Needle Bearings?
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Lube Needle Bearings?
According to the Ford service schedule, the front hub needle bearings should be lubed every 60k. To my knowledge, this has never been done on my truck.
If I were to pull the hubs to access this bearing, what new parts should I have on hand before I start?
From the short amount of searching I have done, I don't believe that I need a hub nut wrench to do this job, but I may be wrong. If I wanted one anyway, where is a good place to get one that would hold up to an OCCASIONAL useage? (ie doesn't need to be SnapOn)
I have borrowed a pic from a previous post from Racerguy to show what I am calling Needle Bearings.
If I were to pull the hubs to access this bearing, what new parts should I have on hand before I start?
From the short amount of searching I have done, I don't believe that I need a hub nut wrench to do this job, but I may be wrong. If I wanted one anyway, where is a good place to get one that would hold up to an OCCASIONAL useage? (ie doesn't need to be SnapOn)
I have borrowed a pic from a previous post from Racerguy to show what I am calling Needle Bearings.
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Have any of you performed this 60k service yourself on the Dana 60 hubs? I have searched here (not much action in the axle, driveline forum) and other forums and havn't found any writeups on the procedure... some related but none specifically on lubing the needle bearings. Even the Ford manuals are somewhat vague on this. Maybe I'm thinking this is bigger job than what it really is.
Thanks for the reply Finally, and the only other parts I have found in my search, other than the vacuum o-ring, is a new set of studs in case they get messed up during the removal process due to corrosion.
While I have the hub down and caliper off, I have read some things about an updated caliper slide pin kit. Any comments as to if I should look into this for my 02?
Thanks for the reply Finally, and the only other parts I have found in my search, other than the vacuum o-ring, is a new set of studs in case they get messed up during the removal process due to corrosion.
While I have the hub down and caliper off, I have read some things about an updated caliper slide pin kit. Any comments as to if I should look into this for my 02?
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I took my truck in, it is an 02 and the dealer said the front spindles are sealed units including anti skid transducer and require no servicing, just replacement when and if they fail. The 60K thing is for other models of heavier trucks.
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I know that the hub is a sealed unit, but the needle bearings are greasable and it is part of the 60,000 mile scheduled maintenance for "Light Trucks, Sport Utilities and Vans" (quoted from the book).
I don't know if I'm beating myself up over this for nothing - or does neglecting the needle bearings lead to a premature and total hub failure?
I don't know if I'm beating myself up over this for nothing - or does neglecting the needle bearings lead to a premature and total hub failure?
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Guzz,
Don't give up on this. Someone who knows for sure will come along. Since the hub is turning and the stub shaft is not (unless in 4WD), I would think that a lack of proper lubrication would gall the O.D. of the stub shaft and the inside-most "race" of the hub.
Pilot and Rooster, Guzzle is correct here. The dealership probably didn't even know that there are those needle bearings inside to support the axle shaft as it passes through the center of the hub. The hub itself uses sealed, non-servicable, bearings.
The needle bearings need to be greased, and I would suspect 60,000 mile intervals would be pretty close.
Pop
Don't give up on this. Someone who knows for sure will come along. Since the hub is turning and the stub shaft is not (unless in 4WD), I would think that a lack of proper lubrication would gall the O.D. of the stub shaft and the inside-most "race" of the hub.
Pilot and Rooster, Guzzle is correct here. The dealership probably didn't even know that there are those needle bearings inside to support the axle shaft as it passes through the center of the hub. The hub itself uses sealed, non-servicable, bearings.
The needle bearings need to be greased, and I would suspect 60,000 mile intervals would be pretty close.
Pop
Last edited by SpringerPop; Feb 4, 2006 at 07:57 PM.
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Originally Posted by SpringerPop
Guzz,
Don't give up on this.
Don't give up on this.
Thanks for the support Pop
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Originally Posted by DALPILOT
I took my truck in, it is an 02 and the dealer said the front spindles are sealed units including anti skid transducer and require no servicing, just replacement when and if they fail. The 60K thing is for other models of heavier trucks.
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I'm not exactly sure where it is at, possibly in the Superduty forum, but the front hub removal is discussed at great lengths. Do a search for front wheel bearings in the Superduty forum, I couldn't find it in the diesel section.
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I finally got the other side done yesterday and finished up the documentation. It's basically like having to change the ball joints but you don't have to pull the steering link or knuckle so it's not as tough. Something else I did was to disassemble the AutoLock hubs and rework them while I had them off. There is a link in the url on how I did that. I sure feel better about my hubs now!
If you're interested, GO HERE to see what I did.
If you're interested, GO HERE to see what I did.
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Guzz,
We HAVE to get you to publish all this stuff. Someday we're going to have a MUCH better manual than Ford (Helm) provides, and so much more comprehensive.
You do nice HTML work, too! Cascading style sheets, even! Love the thumbnails that enlarge.
Pop
We HAVE to get you to publish all this stuff. Someday we're going to have a MUCH better manual than Ford (Helm) provides, and so much more comprehensive.
You do nice HTML work, too! Cascading style sheets, even! Love the thumbnails that enlarge.
Pop
Last edited by SpringerPop; Feb 9, 2006 at 05:03 PM.