will changes at ford effect the PSD's..?
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I doubt the restructuring at Ford is going to have significant effect on the PSDs, and in a broader sense on the entire full-size truck line. Big trucks are Ford's bread and butter - they aren't going to make any radical changes and risk losing their meal ticket. It's the various passcar factions and subsidiaries like Mercury that are going to be feeling the heat.
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Originally Posted by 444in.ofgoodness
I doubt the restructuring at Ford is going to have significant effect on the PSDs, and in a broader sense on the entire full-size truck line. Big trucks are Ford's bread and butter - they aren't going to make any radical changes and risk losing their meal ticket. It's the various passcar factions and subsidiaries like Mercury that are going to be feeling the heat.
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I was watching one of those late night news programs the other night and several so called experts were predicting that FOMOCO would be bankrupt within 2 years.They say their problems are far worse than anyone knows.I kinda find that hard to believe but who knows.
Kinda funny that i know several people in the car business and they all claim that business is good,however they also say their piece of the pie is getting smaller and smaller due to the fact Nissan,Toyota and everyone else is making trucks cars,hybrids and etc,which makes their piece of the pie even smaller.
Ford still claims to have market share for trucks but that market share is half of what it used to be. Could be some hard times coming in the near future for the Automobile industry.
Kinda funny that i know several people in the car business and they all claim that business is good,however they also say their piece of the pie is getting smaller and smaller due to the fact Nissan,Toyota and everyone else is making trucks cars,hybrids and etc,which makes their piece of the pie even smaller.
Ford still claims to have market share for trucks but that market share is half of what it used to be. Could be some hard times coming in the near future for the Automobile industry.
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Part of the problem for the domestic manufacturers is the amount of wages and benefits that they have to pay compared to the Pacific Rim companies. I'm not saying earning a great salary is bad, that's the American dream. It's just the way it is.
And all the R&D for emission, airbag, etc costs that must be absorbed somehow.
And all the R&D for emission, airbag, etc costs that must be absorbed somehow.
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i gotta agree with you kwik... i am all for folks making a nice living, but what good is that if the company is finacially destitute a few decades later... and don't forget the EPA has put TONS of additional costs into making a vehicle with their restrictions... and i have to also say that the american car manufacturers have had an unholy alliance with the oil companies... the car guys have deliberately dragged their feet in developing vehicles that can run on alternative fuels just like the oil companies have intentionally slowed the developement of them while simultaneously price fixing on the fuel they are selling... it's all one big mess and the american people are the real victims when all is said and done... i hope Ford gets it's act together and really does "make quality job 1" this time..!
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You're right on the trucks. They are the big money makers now. But when Toyota and Nisson start building 3/4 tons with diesel engines here, Chevy and Ford had better set their feet. I hate to see it, I like the big Fords, but the folks seem to love that Jap crap. I'm afraid in the future if you want to buy an American made truck it will have to be Japanese.
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None of the american companies will be able to compete if they dont do something about the union wages and bene's. They have thousands of employes that are laid off but in a poole where they still get paid to play cards all day, this is a deal they worked out with the union, and paying peoples health care for life !! When I leave my company ( a semiconductor ) I'm on my own for health care. This is the same problem the airlines are having. If they dont wise up and make huge changes they will all be bankrupt. They also need to trim alot of upper managment fat, thats a problem with most companies.
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Originally Posted by dunbar15
None of the american companies will be able to compete if they dont do something about the union wages and bene's. They have thousands of employes that are laid off but in a poole where they still get paid to play cards all day, this is a deal they worked out with the union, and paying peoples health care for life !! When I leave my company ( a semiconductor ) I'm on my own for health care. This is the same problem the airlines are having. If they dont wise up and make huge changes they will all be bankrupt. They also need to trim alot of upper managment fat, thats a problem with most companies.
Fact: Airline tickets are cheaper today than they were in 1960.
Fact: Airlines pay more taxes than any other industry including ****, alchohol, and any other vice industry.
Fact: The average salary earned by commercial pilots in the US is 36,000 a year. The 300,000 a year 40 hour work month pilot is a myth.
Fact: The average passenger wants to fly around the world, get 5 star accomodations, a 5 star meal, and limo servic for 99 dollars.
Fact: Airline labor accounts for 4% of your ticket cost. TAXES account for more than 60% of your ticket.
Fact: US Airlines are taxed 20% higher than carriers in europe, pay their employess less, and have higer fares on average and still lose money while their contemporaries in europe and the far east make profits--labor is clearly not the problem.
Fact: Non bankrupt airlines have to pay for everything and compete against carriers propogated by bankruptcy laws that give "dead" airlines unbelievable operating advantages.
Fact: The government wants the airline industry to be unregulated yets continues to regulate it as if it were which forces good airlines into failure because they can't make market decisions due to regulatory roadblocks.
Fact: When you fly on one of those little airlines wall street loves so much think about these things:
Your pilots are there because they probably couldn't cut the mustard and get on with one of the majors. Your pilot probably paid for his job--that is, he had the money to pay for training and that guranteed his job--competence wasn't issue.
They don't have tomaintain the infrastructure necessary to operate world-wide. It's a lot easier to balance a spreadsheet with 40 million dollar airplanes than it is with 200 million dollar airplanes. Try to fly Jetblue to say Moscow or Spirit to London.
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Originally Posted by snort
Your characterisation of the airline issue is so far of course that it's obvious your argument is fueled by press "information" rather than the facts.
Fact: Airline tickets are cheaper today than they were in 1960.
Fact: Airlines pay more taxes than any other industry including ****, alchohol, and any other vice industry.
Fact: The average salary earned by commercial pilots in the US is 36,000 a year. The 300,000 a year 40 hour work month pilot is a myth.
Fact: The average passenger wants to fly around the world, get 5 star accomodations, a 5 star meal, and limo servic for 99 dollars.
Fact: Airline labor accounts for 4% of your ticket cost. TAXES account for more than 60% of your ticket.
Fact: US Airlines are taxed 20% higher than carriers in europe, pay their employess less, and have higer fares on average and still lose money while their contemporaries in europe and the far east make profits--labor is clearly not the problem.
Fact: Non bankrupt airlines have to pay for everything and compete against carriers propogated by bankruptcy laws that give "dead" airlines unbelievable operating advantages.
Fact: The government wants the airline industry to be unregulated yets continues to regulate it as if it were which forces good airlines into failure because they can't make market decisions due to regulatory roadblocks.
Fact: When you fly on one of those little airlines wall street loves so much think about these things:
Your pilots are there because they probably couldn't cut the mustard and get on with one of the majors. Your pilot probably paid for his job--that is, he had the money to pay for training and that guranteed his job--competence wasn't issue.
They don't have tomaintain the infrastructure necessary to operate world-wide. It's a lot easier to balance a spreadsheet with 40 million dollar airplanes than it is with 200 million dollar airplanes. Try to fly Jetblue to say Moscow or Spirit to London.
Fact: Airline tickets are cheaper today than they were in 1960.
Fact: Airlines pay more taxes than any other industry including ****, alchohol, and any other vice industry.
Fact: The average salary earned by commercial pilots in the US is 36,000 a year. The 300,000 a year 40 hour work month pilot is a myth.
Fact: The average passenger wants to fly around the world, get 5 star accomodations, a 5 star meal, and limo servic for 99 dollars.
Fact: Airline labor accounts for 4% of your ticket cost. TAXES account for more than 60% of your ticket.
Fact: US Airlines are taxed 20% higher than carriers in europe, pay their employess less, and have higer fares on average and still lose money while their contemporaries in europe and the far east make profits--labor is clearly not the problem.
Fact: Non bankrupt airlines have to pay for everything and compete against carriers propogated by bankruptcy laws that give "dead" airlines unbelievable operating advantages.
Fact: The government wants the airline industry to be unregulated yets continues to regulate it as if it were which forces good airlines into failure because they can't make market decisions due to regulatory roadblocks.
Fact: When you fly on one of those little airlines wall street loves so much think about these things:
Your pilots are there because they probably couldn't cut the mustard and get on with one of the majors. Your pilot probably paid for his job--that is, he had the money to pay for training and that guranteed his job--competence wasn't issue.
They don't have tomaintain the infrastructure necessary to operate world-wide. It's a lot easier to balance a spreadsheet with 40 million dollar airplanes than it is with 200 million dollar airplanes. Try to fly Jetblue to say Moscow or Spirit to London.