Honda did an oops!
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Originally Posted by okst1
I have yet to see a Japanese "pickup" doing serious work in the oilfield or on a construction site.
Bottom line is this: you buy a pickup truck for what YOU want it to be used for, not for what someone else wants it used for. That goes for the Honda Ridgeline, Toyotas, Nissans. Include in that list all the crew cab F250 4x4 Powerstrokes that never leave the pavement.
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From: Houston
Originally Posted by farmtwuck
I see a lot of Toyotas, and a few Nissans as "pumpers" trucks in the oilfield.
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Originally Posted by okst1
For those that don't know, a "pumper" is the guy that drives from well-to-well making sure that the well is operating properly. He has a few hand tools and a grease gun along with a computer in this day and age. When work has to be done on the well, he calls the guys driving Fords, Chevys, and Dodges.
...I read that and almost shayte myself!!!
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I think that there is a nice segment of the market that the Ridgeline was trying to fill. They just failed to execute.
As it stands now, the only REAL small pick-up on the market is the Ranger... and it has been getting some bad press on safety issues.
Chevy's S-10 is nowhere to be seen, and Dodge's Dakota, as well as Toytoas recent offerings are almost as big as full sized trucks.
I think that Ford is best positioned to re-fresh the Ranger to fill this market hole.
To do this, they need to go back to the drawing board and design something that they can but five stars on.
With the price point of the base F150 so low, it will be difficult to sell Ford management on a small truck that costs as much as a large one.
As it stands now, the only REAL small pick-up on the market is the Ranger... and it has been getting some bad press on safety issues.
Chevy's S-10 is nowhere to be seen, and Dodge's Dakota, as well as Toytoas recent offerings are almost as big as full sized trucks.
I think that Ford is best positioned to re-fresh the Ranger to fill this market hole.
To do this, they need to go back to the drawing board and design something that they can but five stars on.
With the price point of the base F150 so low, it will be difficult to sell Ford management on a small truck that costs as much as a large one.
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Originally Posted by okst1
For those that don't know, a "pumper" is the guy that drives from well-to-well making sure that the well is operating properly. He has a few hand tools and a grease gun along with a computer in this day and age. When work has to be done on the well, he calls the guys driving Fords, Chevys, and Dodges.
He HAS to check the wells every day rain, snow, ice, or shine. As such, the reliability of his vehicle is one of the most important aspects of his job.
Like it or not, a lot of these guys run Toyotas and a few Nissans.
As for the serious work, in this area most of them are driving Class 6+ trucks, not pickup trucks.
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From: Houston
"Like it or not, a lot of these guys run Toyotas and a few Nissans."
I could care less what they drive, only stating what I see in the field. I can tell you that if a Pumper drove up to an oil well in Texas driving anything but a Ford, Chevy or Dodge, he would get laughed out of the place. Can you imagine a Pumper driving a Subaru in Texas? He would be the laughing stock of the community. The number one pickup in the oilfield is the Ford Powerstroke-bar none. BTW, Pumpers are important but not as important as they were 20 years ago now that we have satellite transmission of information from the well to the control room. Also, would you mind taking a picture of a Subaru parked in front of an oil well? I would like to have a copy.
I could care less what they drive, only stating what I see in the field. I can tell you that if a Pumper drove up to an oil well in Texas driving anything but a Ford, Chevy or Dodge, he would get laughed out of the place. Can you imagine a Pumper driving a Subaru in Texas? He would be the laughing stock of the community. The number one pickup in the oilfield is the Ford Powerstroke-bar none. BTW, Pumpers are important but not as important as they were 20 years ago now that we have satellite transmission of information from the well to the control room. Also, would you mind taking a picture of a Subaru parked in front of an oil well? I would like to have a copy.
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Originally Posted by okst1
I could care less what they drive, only stating what I see in the field.
I can tell you that if a Pumper drove up to an oil well in Texas driving anything but a Ford, Chevy or Dodge, he would get laughed out of the place.
BTW, Pumpers are important but not as important as they were 20 years ago now that we have satellite transmission of information from the well to the control room.
Also, would you mind taking a picture of a Subaru parked in front of an oil well? I would like to have a copy.
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From: Houston
"Well geez, I forgot we were talking about TEXAS!"
Considering Kansas only produces 88,000 bpd compared to 1.3 Million bpd for Texas, I figured Texas was a larger statistical sample size.
At the end of the day, I don't really care. If you want to come to a Ford Truck Enthusiasts forum and pump sunshine on the Asian trucks, that's cool. I'll just keep driving my old Broncos during the day and defend them at night.
Considering Kansas only produces 88,000 bpd compared to 1.3 Million bpd for Texas, I figured Texas was a larger statistical sample size.
At the end of the day, I don't really care. If you want to come to a Ford Truck Enthusiasts forum and pump sunshine on the Asian trucks, that's cool. I'll just keep driving my old Broncos during the day and defend them at night.
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From: McChord AFB
Ya know a buddy of mine from work just got an 06 Civic. Its a nice car but he paid 23K for it (all the bells and wistles). But heres the funny thing, his passenger side air bag is messing up. Could this be the sort of thing that spells a fall for Honda? i know its just one little thing but they are talking recall on this and Honda untill now has been beyond that sort of thing...
As far as the ridgeline, they say its a truck and i dont see a thing about that that makes me think truck. That is thier downfall, its a lifted mini-van whith a bed...
As far as the ridgeline, they say its a truck and i dont see a thing about that that makes me think truck. That is thier downfall, its a lifted mini-van whith a bed...
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From: Timmins,Ontario,Canada
If i were to choose between the new ford trucks any one of them, or even a 10 year old Ford truck or the new 06 Honda Ridgeline, no comment, i would choose the ford 10 times outa 10. Cars that wanna be trucks ha ha! It is a geeky looking truck.
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From: Miramichi, NB
Over that last couple of weeks/months, I have also been wondering if honda is faultering a little bit. I think honda has gotten the reputation of being the "best" automaker in the world, and they ARE pretty good don't get me wrong. However, I think it has gotten to their heads and they feel they can build anything now and people will buy it because it has an H on the hood. If your look at their newer cars/designs they don't appeal to people as much compared to a couple of years previous. Their newer autos, element, rigdeline and that little aveo-look-a-like due in the near future, are pretty ugly in my opinion.