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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by klatt_89
It needs to be test fitted first, and novices should not attempt to cover a headliner like the ABS ones.
I did test fit the headliner and it needed a little trimming. Ultimately, I got it to fit.

As it relates to covering--the operative word here is novice. I agree! Take it to a pro!


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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by f1fordguy
I did test fit the headliner and it needed a little trimming. Ultimately, I got it to fit.

As it relates to covering--the operative word here is novice. I agree! Take it to a pro!


Tim
Always gota make the stuff work that isn't made exaclty for your truck. One of the problems unless you have had training is knowing how to get the material to get into those contours. Also, glue doesn't like plastic, but if you rough up the surface, it'll stick to it. We're in the process of redoeing a ABS top taht was covered, the previous shop didn't have it positioned right and wasn't fitting the way it should. Guess its always better to do it right the first time, cause the 2nd time is a pain....lol
IF you have any quesitons about interior work, gladly ask me, i'll help ya out.

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sore Knuckles
I installed an ASB from Rod Doors and was extremely happy with the installation and results. I had an Upholosterer install a gray tweed upholstery before the install. the headliner comes in 3 pieces and specifically stastates "Do Not Run the Upoholstery all the way to the edge. This allows the pats to slide together. Well... my upoholster told me that was wrong and begin expounding about his experience and his knowledge. At the risk of insulting his obvious big ego and having him doing a lousy job, I conceded to his experience. He completly upoholstered the pieces and wrapped the edges. Needless to say the thing would not fit together. I took a utility knife an trimmed off the material at the edges and it ended up looking real good. It does requre an extra pair of hands when installing. Mostly to hold installed parts in place and keeping things aligned.

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yes, you do have to wrap the edges or else the material just won't stay. you have to leave allowances for it. He should have test fittend and made sure that you had enough froom for hte material to be wrapped. Don't say that the upholsterer had a big ego, he knew what he was doing except he should have trimmed the panels smaller.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by klatt_89
Don't say that the upholsterer had a big ego, he knew what he was doing except he should have trimmed the panels smaller.
I keep reading that over and it isn't making sense.

If he knows what he's doing, then he should have trimmed the panel, right? And if he didn't trim the panel, he was BSing, right?

Whatever...
 

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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I keep reading that over and it isn't making sense.

If he knows what he's doing, then he should have trimmed the panel, right? And if he didn't trim the panel, he was BSing, right?

Whatever...
He should have trimmed off the panel to allow for clearances. He may have not done this. I know that was confusing, sorry about it. He didn't completely know what he was doing. You always have to wrap the edges. Sorry for the confusion, i'm just saying that he knew that he had to wrap the edges.

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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I recently met an old high school buddy of my father's. He's a neat old guy with tons of stories of his experiences in law enforcement, business, and politics. He told us of a timber entrance he was building at his ranch up in CO. He took bids and got what he expected in terms of cost. He thought though, he had plenty of trees on his property and a tractor with needed apparatus, he decided he could build this thing for 1/5th of the bids and he did. but in the process tore up his finger pretty bad when it got in a bad spot between two logs. Being the DIY guy that we all tend to be, he opted to doctor his wound himself rather than drive 2-1/2 hours to the nearest clinic (his place is out there). So he went at it cleaning and closing it up with super glue. When it was obviously infected he got a doctor involved and after a couple minor surgeries and a significant amount of antibiotics, he got it taken care of. but his sage advice for me...

Whether you're building a grand property entrance or performing surgery, you're usually better off paying the guy who knows what he's doing.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vintage56
Whether you're building a grand property entrance or performing surgery, you're usually better off paying the guy who knows what he's doing.
That is very sage advice, and in a perfect world would probably work out very well. If I had to pay a "professional" every time I needed something done I wold probably be a lot skinnier than I am right now because I couldn't afford to eat. Some of the "professionals" I've seen in this world have fallen short of the mark. It seems like alot of the time the only difference between a "professional" and any one of us is practice and tools.
The way I was raised is that you just handled any kind of problem that came up, if something broke, you fixed it. That is the way I approach things. On my truck I try and do things myself. I figure I'll try it, whatever it is, I'll learn about the process and give it a go. The worst case scenario is that I may screw it up and have to redo it or get help to redo it. Sure it takes me alot longer to get things done but thats the price I have to pay for living on a small budget.
This thread has been very informative. I will try and make my own interior in my truck when the time comes so I have been reading along with interest.

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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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honestly, Bobby, I'm the same way. I think most of us here are.

dont mean to hijack the thread - back to topic...
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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I wasn't trying to slam you and I hope I didn't offend. I enjoyed the story. I have also been in the same boat where my DIY adventures have probably cost me more in the long run (Dang Murphy's Law!!!) than hiring it done........sometimes chickens, sometimes feathers.

Again, I think this is a good thread and I have been reading along with interest.

Thanks to all
Bobby
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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I believe sore knuckles was refering to the point where the 3 pieces fit into one another not fitting when the upholstery was wrapped around the edges. If the edge of one panel slid into a channel in the next, trimming the panel would still not given enough clearance for two layers of fabric in a channel designed for one. I'm not a pro uphosterer, so take anything I say with a note of the experience behind it, but from all the reading and watching I've done, to do a sculptured panel you need the right fabric with plenty of stretch to be able to work it into the shapes without wrinkling. Most of the pros also use a steamer or heat gun to help persuade the fabric to conform. A lot of upholstery fabrics have a backing designed to NOT stretch so it doesn't end up bagging from sitting on it. If you grab a sample of the fabric and pull hard from opposite sides, if it doesn't stretch you're in for a fight.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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I would bet $10 to a day old Krispy Kreme that the majority of people frequenting this board are your basic hard core Type A personalities and inclined to do it themselves. Or at least try until they meet their match!

It's one of those instructions things! "Instructions!? I don't need no stinking instructions!!!"


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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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how far down the back of the cab does this come? Does it encircle the rear window? Will it work around the rear window in my gallery?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by f1fordguy
I would bet $10 to a day old Krispy Kreme that the majority of people frequenting this board are your basic hard core Type A personalities and inclined to do it themselves. Or at least try until they meet their match!

It's one of those instructions things! "Instructions!? I don't need no stinking instructions!!!"


Tim

I know when to go to the pros, i like doing things on my own, but my short temper sometimes just makes it impossible to do some things so I send it off the pros before i fly off the handle, it's better that way.

It all dpends on the material you use. You have to wrap it, i work at a professionals, do it as you like but i'll warn ya you have to wrap it, trust me. if you have any other interior questions, just pm me.......i'm going to go back to looking like this in class now ..
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fatfenders56
how far down the back of the cab does this come? Does it encircle the rear window? Will it work around the rear window in my gallery?
If you are going to cover it, the nice thing about ABS is that it is easy to modify. Roddoors even offers extra material sheets just for modification, customizing.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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There are muiltiple pieces, and there is one for below the rear window, at least in the kit we have there is.
 
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