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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Sae Or Metric?

Which is better SAE OR METRIC bolts?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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I voted metric because I find it easier to understand... But i cant say there is really any difference between them really. Just what yor bought up on
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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it depends. pre 80's American built cars were sae. newer cars and foreign were metric. neither interchange.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
it depends. pre 80's American built cars were sae. newer cars and foreign were metric. neither interchange.
I have worked on a '78 Pontiac back in about '88 found both, and recently both on various Jeeps 2002 or so, mostly drive train stuff made by other companys. I was in college a year ago, you would be surprised by these youngins still think everything is SAE. I keep a small SAE socket set in my work box, once in awile those Jeeps roll in. I'll take Metric any day, everything in units of 10, not 16 or 32 or 64, what a dumb system. We are the only country that I'm aware of that still uses the English system, even the Brits use the Metric system.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 03:56 AM
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I like the metric system of bolts as long as everything that I am workng on is all metric. But in the end it doesn't really matter. A bolt is still a bolt no matter what it's size. All I ask is don't mix them up. Use one or the other.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 04:17 AM
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I like both, but prefer SAE because I can tell what size wrench to use without randomly trying sockets on a bolt.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 04:24 AM
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i picked SAE it is simple to use.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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Nowdays, you need both to work on anything. Cars come mixed.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Timca
Nowdays, you need both to work on anything. Cars come mixed.
Yep, I'll confirm this. My rangers timing belt cover, is held on by 3 10mm bolts, while the rest of the engine is 99% SAE sizes.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Like SAE myself because I was brought up on it. An engineer friend of mine once said there is a difference to the way the threads are shaped and that the SAE design is stronger - don't know if this is true. If you are a bit older you will remember Whitworth bolts as well - which was an even older (Brit) system. I still have a set of Whitworth wrenches for those old sports cars people have hidden away.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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Yeah well, to work on cars you definately need both. And as for the bolts well neither is better than the other. I understand both systems, but metric is definatley a simpler system, Everything is in increments of 10 it doesn't get any easier than that. Who likes to calculate fractions to get things done when you're in a hurry. 10x5=50 10x50=500 etc etc... You get it, metric system is simple, but both are essential in todays world.

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Now if you come over to England and work on some older engines you can enter the wonderful world of Whitworth and BA as well as Metric and SAE

 

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Prefer metric... but have tools for both... My Ford is mostly SAE with a smattering of metric. The '03 MINI and VW are naturally all metric. Surprisingly, the '73 Volvo is 99% SAE with a couple of metric bolts thrown in to annoy you. We just picked up a '79 Spitfire... so far, everything is metric... even the battery terminal clamps, which surprised me.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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AndrewHR - I must admit there are a number of Whitworth threaded units lost in my basement somewhere (Hillman transmissions , SUs and flathead engines to name a few). There are many differences between these fastener systems and although I like SAE more than Metric, I really like the Whitworth bolts the best. The heads on the Whitworth bolts were slightly larger and the angle of the threads was 55 degrees not 60, which made them stronger. Also, my experience with the old Whitworths was that the bolts and nuts fit tighter as these were the days of cut threads not rolled threads. Guess I'm just an old ludite bugger.....
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Metric, most of the newer Ford's and GM's I have Metric, like 13mm, 14mm
 
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