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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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I agree with GarageDoc,,I would be some ticked off, after waiting that long, and then Leaks,,?---- Should be NONE !
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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No it should not leak with 110 miles on it, or with 30,000 miles on it. That said, it had not been driven prior to you getting it so no one really knew there was a problem, glad you caught the problem. I hope they can get you fixed up quickly, but it could take another day or 2. Hang in there, it will be worth the wait. Keep us posted as you get your updates.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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My $.02 is this.

First ... I would return the truck to the dealer and try and get them to replace it with another one.

Second.... If they won't. Document everything and I mean everything. Names, dates, times, mileage, type of leak or other problem. If it's back more than 3 times for the same repair and they can't fix it. Then you take them to the DSB and get you a new truck.

My wife and I lemoned our last excursion. It's a painless process as long as you have documentation.

I know your pain. To pay that kind of money and have it in the shop the first week you own it. That's crap.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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The more I hear of the problems the more I want to take my loss and get a GM. Have always had Fords but to still see the same problems in '06 is sad. Consider this, if we do not take the trucks back and demand replacements rather than repair a factory engine with low miles...then why would Ford or any manaufacterer need to sell a quality product. The dealers are certainly getting the worse of it. I would not want to sell someone a 50k auto knowing they more than likely will back for extensive repair.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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Well..finally got a call back from the dealer today. It was the rear main. They have already fixed it I can pick it up any time. When I dropped it off thinking it was a tranny problem...I told them to change the oil while it was in there since I'm going on a 2200 mi trip next week. The service writer said if it ended up being an oil leak they wouldn't charge me for the oil change. Now he says I have to pay for the oil change since they dropped the tranny and not the oil pan. I suppose their is some logic to that... but at this point I hoped they would comp me the oil change.

Since I like the mileage I'm getting and how the truck runs I told them specifically not to flash anything. I'll see how it runs tomorrow.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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The unfortunate fact is that there will be defects with any products. I seen it from Toyotas, to GM, to Ford. The main objective for any manufacturer is to minimize any potential defects. I seen Toyotas coming straight from the factory with engines that will not start (One was actually completely full of oil!), GMs with starters that go out in the first month of use, etc, etc. I am not a mechanic but I know a long list of people in the business with all kinds of stories.

Definitely use the Lemon Law if it comes to that. Hopefully they will fix the seal and that will be the end of it. I have no complaints with my 05 F250. Sometimes the problems can be caused by 3rd party suppiers shipping defective seals/parts and causing problems with the finish product.

Either way good luck!!!

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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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Just got mine back (05 F250 Lariat FX4), same problem as your's. this is second time its been in for the same problem. Oil at the bell housing. First, replaced rear main seal. Second, removed cab, pulled engine, replaced all seals. It is still leaking oil. I love my truck and am going to ask Ford to replace it. If they dont will get a lawyer due to lemon law, the truck has been in shop a total of 6 weeks. They've also replaced instument cluster due to tach sticking, and the egr valve.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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I got a call from my service writer this morning letting me know that a new rear main seal was installed in my truck. That fixes one leak. Problem is the tech can't locate the other one. What he doe's know is that it appears to be originating somewhere near the starter. Service writer said she would call me as soon as she found anything out. That was at 11:00 and I never heard from her again. I called my salesman and let him know what was happening with my truck and needless to say he was pretty shocked. There is no doubt in my mind that the service department is doing what they can to get my truck on the road, but at this point I'm ready to demand a new truck. I appreciate everyones comments and suggestions. Good idea Brian I'll document everything. Thanks all
 
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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wassabe,

Man ... you are a saint. You're way more patient than I would be in your shoes. Personally I would never pay for that oil change. That's the least they could do is cover that for your trouble. I think you need to call the new car manager and make sure he's aware of the issue and the service manager. Run it up the ladder. Remember ... squeaky wheel gets the grease!. You just dropped a large wad of cash at that place and to me ... they don't seem like they're bending over backwards to get it fixed too quickly.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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WOW my '06 has the oil drip near the rubber plug too! It has 1,000 miles on it. I just received a notice to reflash the computer also. I bought it 2 days before Christmas.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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What do you end up with when you cross a diesel tech who is trying very hard to locate an oil leak, with a service writer who's only been on the job a few days? You end up with a customer who's pulling his hair out imagining his new truck spread out all over some service bay in a hundred pieces! The truth is it seems there was some confusion and/or lack of communication between all involved. OK, the tech told the writer that it looks like the rear main seal is leaking and he thinks there might be a leak somewhere else. So then the writer calls me and says that the rear main seal IS leaking and needs replacing but the tech is concerned about the oil he sees around the starter area. Long story short, the seal didn't need replacing, the dye test showed no leaks, and the tech and all involved are certain the truck dosn't have any leaks. At this time there is dye in the oil so it can be inspected again at my first oil change in a couple of months. This entire event just about drove me crazy. The final thoughts from all involved at the dealership is that the oil must have been there from assembly and how it made it past all inspections is beyond them. Anyway, I have full faith that the dealer did all they could to remidy the problem. I've been going to this dealership for about ten years for service on my 88 F250 and have never had a single complaint about their work. They are a nice family owned dealership and have always treated me well. In fact the service department is the reason that I bought my truck there. I guess I should stop now because this is begining to sound like a commercial for the place. Oh, by the way, after talking to my service writer yesterday I think this whole thing about drove her crazy too. The only thing I asked of her is to remember that there are some people who's trucks(or cars) are much more to them than just tranportation. And I'm one of them. A little more communication would have been much appreciated. After all this, it felt great to get my truck back again. This is my first diesel and I'll never own a gasser again... except for my wifes Honda Accord. lol
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Wassabe, You could help out by going to the local wal-mart and pick-up a black light and some rags. Wipe everything clean and after any drives get the black light and a creepy crawler and do an inspection. If you see the glowing tell tell signs you might be able to help them isolate the leak. You might also find that after wiping the oil away a couple times that it does not come back. Good luck and keep us posted.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by B n Az
Well..finally got a call back from the dealer today. It was the rear main. They have already fixed it I can pick it up any time. When I dropped it off thinking it was a tranny problem...I told them to change the oil while it was in there since I'm going on a 2200 mi trip next week. The service writer said if it ended up being an oil leak they wouldn't charge me for the oil change. Now he says I have to pay for the oil change since they dropped the tranny and not the oil pan. I suppose their is some logic to that... but at this point I hoped they would comp me the oil change.

Since I like the mileage I'm getting and how the truck runs I told them specifically not to flash anything. I'll see how it runs tomorrow.
Get with the dealer management and tell them you were originally told you were going to be comped on that oil change. They buy that oil in bulk, and they probably didn't change your filter unless you asked. INSIST they stick to the original agreement. We bought some of the most expensive vehicles in the dealer's inventory, we should be treated with respect, not like dog droppings.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GarageDoc
Wassabe, You could help out by going to the local wal-mart and pick-up a black light and some rags. Wipe everything clean and after any drives get the black light and a creepy crawler and do an inspection. If you see the glowing tell tell signs you might be able to help them isolate the leak. You might also find that after wiping the oil away a couple times that it does not come back. Good luck and keep us posted.
GarageDoc, Thats a good idea. I have only driven my truck a few miles since I got it back because I'm driving my company truck this week, but I took a look around the bell housing this morning and didn't see any oil. I'll keep you posted.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rray32539
Get with the dealer management and tell them you were originally told you were going to be comped on that oil change. They buy that oil in bulk, and they probably didn't change your filter unless you asked. INSIST they stick to the original agreement. We bought some of the most expensive vehicles in the dealer's inventory, we should be treated with respect, not like dog droppings.
How was this guy treated like dog droppings? Sounds like the service writer believed that if it's an oil leak it would require that the oil be drained to fix it, then he wouldn't be charged for the oil to replace what they dumped. It doesn't sound like the service writer meant because your truck is in here for warranty work we're going to give you a complimentary oil change. The service writer might not have known that is was the RMS, and that fix doesn't require dumping the oil. They might give him a free oil change based on the fact that they didn't perform the maintenance service he requested, after the warranty work was done. But then again, they also didn't charge him for a maintenance service oil change he didn't get. Let's at least try and be reasonable.
 
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