Winch wiring diagram needed.
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Winch wiring diagram needed.
I bought a little cheapo winch at Costco, to install in the back of my truck. One that easily mounts and is easily taken out. It's not a huge poundage winch, but I figure I can use pulling blocks or whatever to do the slightly heavier chores.
What I need is someone to send me a nice simple wiring diagram, from the front to the pick up box area. Guage of wire would be nice too. It's use would be for short term uses, dragging or lifting probably no more than a thousand pounds, intermittantly.
If you need more info as to the size motor on the winch, etc. let me know .. I'll have to go out to my storage shed, where I'm keeping it for now, to get the info. There's a very simple minded (written by someone who didn't have a great knowledge of the English language) wiring diagram in the instructions that came with it, but any advice would be a great help, since I'm not exactly an electrical genius. Thanks!
What I need is someone to send me a nice simple wiring diagram, from the front to the pick up box area. Guage of wire would be nice too. It's use would be for short term uses, dragging or lifting probably no more than a thousand pounds, intermittantly.
If you need more info as to the size motor on the winch, etc. let me know .. I'll have to go out to my storage shed, where I'm keeping it for now, to get the info. There's a very simple minded (written by someone who didn't have a great knowledge of the English language) wiring diagram in the instructions that came with it, but any advice would be a great help, since I'm not exactly an electrical genius. Thanks!
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i would use a welding wire to power it, with a circuit breaker near the battery. you only need to run 1 wire from the positive terminal. use the truck as the negative ground. upgrade your ground wire to a welding wire, and then put a small jumper wire from winch negative post to the winch mount bolt.
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From: brooks a.b.
also need to know if the sol. pack is on the winch or is it mounted seperate from the winch. also i would recommend going the warn site and getting their quick connects if you plan to use the winch much. it beats having to tighten and loosen nouts on studs when you remove/install the winch. great advise on the breaker for protection.
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I had to work all day today and couldn't make it out to my storage shed. I'll go get the info on the questions asked and come back and post tomorrow. Thanks for showing interest in my little project.
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OK .. I'll describe it as best I can. Maybe one of you electrical wizards will help me see the light on the finalities.
First off, the power cables that came with it aren't a a heck of a lot heavier than your average old fashioned lighting system or the heavy wires coming off the gen or alt.... maybe twice the thickness, but cetainly not as heavy as a typical winch or welder. I didn't have a guage measuring tool and the book..well, it's about worthless for technical info. This winch is similar to what you'd install on an ATV. So ....
It's a Champion 2000lb, 12v DC Permanent Magnet electric motor, with 0.7 hp output. The whole thing weighs 16 pounds. ( Wheee...now we're havin' fun, eh?) The amperage is as follows:
line pull lbs /ft per min/ motor current amps
0 / 18 / 12
500 / 9.2 / 25
1000 / 7.5 / 40
1500 / 5.9 / 60
2000 / 3.3 / 90
It has about 4.5 feet of cable with it, but I figure if I have to install it in the box, I'll have to replace the positive cable to the battery, with a single piece. The ground, can go directly to the frame with what wire I currently have.
I know..I could probably just go to a good electrical store with the wire I have and say gimme X feet of this and buy the connectors. But.... I want the best advice..so..here I am. Thanks guys.
First off, the power cables that came with it aren't a a heck of a lot heavier than your average old fashioned lighting system or the heavy wires coming off the gen or alt.... maybe twice the thickness, but cetainly not as heavy as a typical winch or welder. I didn't have a guage measuring tool and the book..well, it's about worthless for technical info. This winch is similar to what you'd install on an ATV. So ....
It's a Champion 2000lb, 12v DC Permanent Magnet electric motor, with 0.7 hp output. The whole thing weighs 16 pounds. ( Wheee...now we're havin' fun, eh?) The amperage is as follows:
line pull lbs /ft per min/ motor current amps
0 / 18 / 12
500 / 9.2 / 25
1000 / 7.5 / 40
1500 / 5.9 / 60
2000 / 3.3 / 90
It has about 4.5 feet of cable with it, but I figure if I have to install it in the box, I'll have to replace the positive cable to the battery, with a single piece. The ground, can go directly to the frame with what wire I currently have.
I know..I could probably just go to a good electrical store with the wire I have and say gimme X feet of this and buy the connectors. But.... I want the best advice..so..here I am. Thanks guys.
Last edited by Fordlover55; Jan 20, 2006 at 04:54 PM.
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i would still go with a welding wire. with the length of the run from the battery to the winch in the bed, you will get a severe power loss due to line resistance if you use a thiner line like a battery cable. the only good thing with a 90 amp draw is that you will not need a real big cable. a good copper core wire with a rating of 125-150 amps should do quite well.
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From: brooks a.b.
you may also want to upgrade the ground cable from your battery to your frame. it may not be sized big enough for a continuos draw that the winch may call for.
you can not go wrong going with the cable that transport is suggesting.
you can not go wrong going with the cable that transport is suggesting.
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Thanks for the advice guys! I was also thinking of another notion and need some opinions on it's viability.
I was thinking about buying a deep cycle battery to hook the winch to and to boost it & keep it somewhat charged, running some super heavy duty jumper cables, that I already have, to the battery in front and keeping the engine running, when using the winch. Think that idea would work? Or is using solid wiring as suggested above, better? I'm working on a mount design that will easily mount anyplace in the back of the truck, quickly and firmly enough for my needs. I imagine, upgrading the original battery ground would still be a good option with even this route, too. (?)
No rush on anything here, but I do like to plan ahead and make sure I do it right the first time. Gets spendy otherwise. One of these days, I'm going to have to make electrical things a hobby, so I can just go ahead and DO some projects, without having to seem like a total ignoramus. I probably should have thought about buying a GOOD name brand winch to begin with....now...off to the Warn site to check out the quick disconnects mentioned above.
I was thinking about buying a deep cycle battery to hook the winch to and to boost it & keep it somewhat charged, running some super heavy duty jumper cables, that I already have, to the battery in front and keeping the engine running, when using the winch. Think that idea would work? Or is using solid wiring as suggested above, better? I'm working on a mount design that will easily mount anyplace in the back of the truck, quickly and firmly enough for my needs. I imagine, upgrading the original battery ground would still be a good option with even this route, too. (?)
No rush on anything here, but I do like to plan ahead and make sure I do it right the first time. Gets spendy otherwise. One of these days, I'm going to have to make electrical things a hobby, so I can just go ahead and DO some projects, without having to seem like a total ignoramus. I probably should have thought about buying a GOOD name brand winch to begin with....now...off to the Warn site to check out the quick disconnects mentioned above.
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Well, if you do not mind spending the money, the deep cycle battery idea will work better than the large cable from the front to the rear.
If you want to spend a little bit more money, you could buy a battery isolator, and mount it up front and run a smaller wire to the rear and permanently mount the deep cycle battery. The isolator would keep the deep cycle charged and ready to go anytime you would want to use it. And the permanently mounted deep cycle could also be used for extra lighting, powering an invertor for 120v, or anything else you could dream up. And you could use the winch or any of your power accessories with the truck's engine off. If you ran the deep cycle battery down, you can still start the truck, since the isolator will not let the truck's starting battery be run down by the deep cycle battery's loads.
If you want to spend a little bit more money, you could buy a battery isolator, and mount it up front and run a smaller wire to the rear and permanently mount the deep cycle battery. The isolator would keep the deep cycle charged and ready to go anytime you would want to use it. And the permanently mounted deep cycle could also be used for extra lighting, powering an invertor for 120v, or anything else you could dream up. And you could use the winch or any of your power accessories with the truck's engine off. If you ran the deep cycle battery down, you can still start the truck, since the isolator will not let the truck's starting battery be run down by the deep cycle battery's loads.
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Splendid idea! Tax refund, new tires and then the rest. I can get a friend to help me hook it all up...in fact he's kinda lookin forward to it, to see how it works, so he can put one in the back of his rig. Thanks for all your help guys. It's much appreciated!
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