New prostarter is dead
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New prostarter is dead
My new prostarter is dead when the engine is warm. I ran new ground cables to the block, frame and firewall but that didnt help. I can jump the solonoid on the inner fender and nothing. Let it sit 8-12 hours and it works fine until the engine warms up and you try to restart it. Cranked it the other morning when it was 36 here just to see if it would start in cooler weather and this engine dosnt need to turn over a full revolution before it starts right up even in cool weather. Any ideas on this before I pull it and send it back? I think I'll buy a stock new one from napa with a life time warranty this time. If you remember I had that new powermaster go out on me in less than 2 weeks that I replaced with this prostarter.
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My stock replacement starter from Kregens as survived the Hedman headers snaking around it for a while now. Granted I don't drivve it much but enough that heat soak would have shown up by now. It was 50.00 with a lifetime warrenty.
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This evening after work I went by Napa and got a new Napa power supreme. Its just a OEM type with better insulation and torque they say. 3 year warranty. I got home and pulled the header and prostarter. Called Jegs and they said ship it back for a full refund. I have to pay shipping but for what that thing cost I'll eat the freight. I hope to get it on tomorrow evening. I have a set of felpro gaskets so I'll use one of them
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I've had no problems with my Jeg's ProStarter. I'd be concerned that you have some exhaust in contact with the starter, heating it up. Mine's had a rough ride with all the engine/transmisson removals and tough starting issues. I'm sorry it didn't work as well for you.
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I am running a stock replacement with lifetime warranty. My 4th primary actually touched my starter until I beat some clearence into it. I talked to the parts guy i deal with and he said i could get a new one about every year for free on the warranty.
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Greg this engine didnt have 2 hours on it yet. This starter never worked hard at all, not once. I just got a lemon is all. These Hooker ceramics headers will let me lay under it with it running and put my hand between the starter and header (about 4 in. clearance) after its run for 30 min. If I'd tried that with those Headmans I'd of been fryed ( about 1/2 in clearance) so I dont think it was heat related. Run the engine until it reaches temp and it would be 8 to 12 hours before the starter would turn over again. When it did turn over it acted perfect so it had to be some internal thermal safety or switch opening up. I just got a bad one is all I can say and Jegs is making it right
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Well, that is the reason I recomended the Jeg's. their customer service is very good. I hope the new unit works well for you.
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Talk about dumb and dumber lol My son and i looked for the 3 bolts last night for the starter for 3 hours. We couldnt even make any we had come close to putting that starter on. I went by the tranny shop today and he handed me 3 and laughed when I told him my story. Well he didnt charge me anyway. I came home and tapped out the holes just for luck and got that new napa starter on. Wired up and turned it over with the coil wire off. lol that sounded second only to the new motor starting. Header back on tomorrow and off to the muffler shop one more time to get my pipe welded back I had to cut to move the header to get the starter in and out.
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Sounds like a bad connection inside the starter. At low temps, it's not much resistance, but heat it up, everything moves, and it either totally breaks contact or goes so high in resistance that it can hardly move.
When you say it won't start, do you mean whir-pause-whir-pause-whir, or not even trying like it's not even hooked up?
When you say it won't start, do you mean whir-pause-whir-pause-whir, or not even trying like it's not even hooked up?
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Krewat, It acted like it wasnt even hooked up. I jumped the firewall mounted solonid, nothing. I even ran a wire from the battery straight to it. I held my hand on it to see if I could even feel it trying to start. Nothing, but wait 8-12 hours and it turned over just like it should. Well I dropped it off at Fed-ex around noon so Jegs will have it in 2 or 3 days. Thank goodness for their good return policy. Let me count here I'm well versed on starter change outs. The original on the 352, replaced with a rebuilt one. Replaced that with the powermaster on the 352. The Jegs on the 390 and now the Napa. lol I have way more starter replacement knowledge and practice than I care to have
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Definitely a defective unit - I would have let them replace it and see how it goes.
Actually, I would have opened it up myself and fixed it, but that's just me
But the stock starter was fine for my high-compression, double valve-spring, 390 ...
Actually, I would have opened it up myself and fixed it, but that's just me
But the stock starter was fine for my high-compression, double valve-spring, 390 ...
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I put a Powermaster mini starter on mine and in about 1500 miles it’s grinding and won't turn over the engine. This is so bizarre that I'm looking for some problem with the ring gear. I'm thinking maybe the starter needs to be shimmed. How can such an expensive starter go bad that quick? Now I'm searching this forum and finding out that many people are experiencing the same thing. Are these pricy starter’s just total crap or what? I’m going back to the 40 dollar starter from NAPA, but what a burn, I paid a lot for that mini starter and it didn’t last any time at all.
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A problem with the ring gear should be pretty straight forward DW. I seem to remember hearing that the ring gear is made from a harder material than the starter drive. If there is a problem there, the easier to change part should take the damage first.
The problems I have had include:
The bell housing coming loose and pulling the drive into the flywheel.
The starter coming loose and re-orienting the starter nose and drive to the flywheel.
A bad starter drive.
What are you seeing on the ring gear?
The problems I have had include:
The bell housing coming loose and pulling the drive into the flywheel.
The starter coming loose and re-orienting the starter nose and drive to the flywheel.
A bad starter drive.
What are you seeing on the ring gear?