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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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low oil pressure

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Just bought a 84 f150, with a 89 5.0 2 bbl carb, first start engine oil pressure on stock guage is in the middle, after engine warms up oil pressure drops below the L, any ideal? Thanks alot
 
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Thread moved to " 221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W V8" tech forum. Should be more resources here for your question.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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install a real mechanical gauge an then post back. the stock gauges suck and dont operate as a true pressure gauge
 
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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I had that problem and it was just the sender unit. Also the stock sender was just an on/off switch despite the gauge on the dash. However you can get a gauge sender which moves the needle with the oil pressure.

Before that was resolved, people had pointed out that low pressure generally indicates the engine's main bearings are worn and it's in need of a rebuild. Usually this wouldn't happen until like 300k miles. Another cause is a broken oil pump or more likely a broken shaft driving the oil pump.
 

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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The stock oil pressure sending unit is not like an on/off switch. It's set to only show no/low oil pressure at about 7-9psi. It's also set to be slow in reacting to changes in oil pressure. This keeps the needle steady - despite the fact that oil pressure changes with RPM and oil type/temp. It's designed specifically to do this.

Yes, low oil pressure at idle while warm (but pressure is good at all other times) is an indication of a worn engine. When it starts getting into single digits and near 0 it's about time for a rebuild. You can't say it "usually happens until like 300k mi) as it can happen at any mileage - it's all dependent of when the engine is worn out. You can say some of these engines last that long but not the majority of them last to 300k miles. I'd say 90% of them last between 100-200k miles and that's it. They are great durable engines but - durable engines with a heavy load for their entire life.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Worn out lower end bearings! These motors are famous for them.
Every 302/ 351W I've swapped with 80,000 plus miles on it, I've put new main and rod bearings in it ($75 dollars with gaskets) before installing it with a 100% success rate.
The 300-sixes also have the same problem!
I've done a couple dozen.
20-50W oil works as a temporary band-aid.
Steve G.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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well stated Justin
 
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 8 Lugs
Worn out lower end bearings! These motors are famous for them.
Every 302/ 351W I've swapped with 80,000 plus miles on it, I've put new main and rod bearings in it ($75 dollars with gaskets) before installing it with a 100% success rate.
The 300-sixes also have the same problem!
I've done a couple dozen.
20-50W oil works as a temporary band-aid.
Steve G.
The straight six has 7 main bearings as opposed to the v-8's 5. That engine is a well know - high milage engine. On those I'd be much more willing to say that 75% of them reach 200-300k miles.

I wouldn't call it a "problem" - it's the nature of the beast. A lot of these engines are run off trucks with no OD and heavy loads. My dad's 88 F-250's 5.8 ran til about 130-140k miles. It had no overdrive and a 1200lb cap on it for 80% of it's life. It had a lot of work to do in that mileage.

My 89 on the other hand has 150k on it and it's in great shape. I have 20psi at idle, no bearing problems there. It has overdrive and didn't get nearly the kind of work my dad's did. My female cousin owned it for 75% of those miles.

I would have to say that on most of these V-8s, that the bearings go before the cylinders are bad in compression. So yes I'd say the bearings go before most anything...not that it's a "problem" though...as in a design flaw...they're great engines - one of the best Ford ever made.
 

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