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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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86 351W HO Timing

On my truck I had someone do the head gaskets and a new timing chain and when I start my truck it runs at very high idle then stalls out and the carb catches fire what causes this and why does it idle so high cause now it runs for about 1 minute than stalls!
 
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 06:41 AM
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If fire makes it into the intake manifold and or carb, then it is firing too early and it is usually timing, and its WAY off

Have you timed it? whats it at?

Im not familiar with the 351, but Id guess 6,7,8,9 degrees BTDC???????

It sounds like you could have a combination of problems...... Id start with the timing, its supposed to be warm when you time it though, tell us more about your setup.....
 
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Remove #1 spark plug and bring to top of stroke using a whistle stop or probe of some sort (best if you rotate motor by hand with coil unplugged), when it's at top of it's travel remove distributor cap to see where rotor is, s/b just past #1 tower of cap since that motor fires about 10 degrees btdc.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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Make sure your firing order is correcct...5.8's and 5.0's hjave a different firing order...there should be a sticker on your radiator support panael telling you what the timing should be (10 before, I think) as well as the firing order.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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check for vaccum leaks, almost caught a bronco on fire after valve cover gasket install, forgot the power brake booster vaccum line
 
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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The 86 351HO is supposed to be set at 10 BTDC with the vacuum advance disconnected. It's carbureted, Holley 4180, which is most likely leaking from the accelerator pump, bottom right hand side of front bowl. Fuel on the intake could cause the fire, old carburetor begging for a rebuild could explain a LOT of problems. I had so much trouble with mine I just replaced it with an Edelbrock. Best thing I ever did. Mine idled REALLY high when I first got it and started tuning it up. Carb turned out to be the culprit for 90% of my troubles.....
 
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Sounds like vacuum leak to me. Possibly intake manifold gaskets, to check for leaks, I spray carb cleaner (with the straw) next to the heads and alongside the carb gasket. The motor's rpm will change if there is a leak. Also , my '86 Ho carb, had so many vacuum lines that I replaced it with a universal 4160 (Holley # 80457)and an aluminum intake. I got lucky and found those parts on E-bay or I would not have been able to afford them. I would also check the firing order, may have an ignition wire crossed.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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Thread moved to " 221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W V8" Tech forum. Should find more resources here to help with the problem.
 
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Check to see if the distributor is 180 off.
 
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your timing should be around 10 degrees BTDC and be sure to check your firing order this happened to me yesterday and it ran very crappy until i found my firing order was off
 
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