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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JAMESR
Has Anybody Used The Amsoil Oils And Filters
My Amsoil Dealer Is Pushing The Stuff But Im Not Sure

He Wants Me To Use 5w-40 Full Syn Oil
Ant The Amsoil Filters
Gezzzzzzzzzzz Cant a guy ask a simple question without it going into personal remarks. " Has anybody used the Amsoil oils and filters " Just because he asked about Amsoil doesn't make it Open Season on them.
 
Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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fire...You have seen these same discussions here as well as at TDS...why do you seem surprised?

Seems that the ones against, far out # the defenders. Maybe there is a reason for that.

But, no. I have not used it. Nor do I intend to.
 
Old Dec 16, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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I've seen Ford dealers shudder at the mere mention of Amsoil. Their oil could be the best in the world (it isn't) and I wouldn't buy from them simply because I don't like pyramid... err, MLM schemes.
 
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dPrasse01
Well , the Amsoil 15w40 diesel oil is on that list ....
Only the PCO, which is a synthetic blend, NOT full synthetic!!
 
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dPrasse01
Tim , Looks like a Tag team SPAM operation I have seen on other BB's ... one newbie asks a question and magically , another noob has all of the answers ...
Yea, everyone is a noob at one time or another. Your post count isn't your IQ. I would think it would be pretty lame to try to get "free advertising" by starting a oil topic. Everyone has there own opinion. I have never jumped in on another oil thread to say one oil is bad. I have used amsoil in my race bike when I raced motocross. I use it in my race sled, over 15k in the motor. I use it in my race car and my truck. I've never had a oil related problem. On the racing applications the motors are worked HARD! In fact I was very apprehensive on running the two cycle engines at 75 to 1 but they "amsoil" guaranteed the motor. Since then, I've never looked back. I'm sure other people have used other oils with great success. I've had good luck, so I'm sticking with it. Andy.
 
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LASTLS1
Yea, everyone is a noob at one time or another. Your post count isn't your IQ. I would think it would be pretty lame to try to get "free advertising" by starting a oil topic.
Unfortunately Andy, some have. Glad you have had a good experience.

I guess you are using it in your 6.0 as well.
 
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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Unfortunately Andy, some have. Glad you have had a good experience.

I guess you are using it in your 6.0 as well.
Yea, I just put it in. I didn't want to because of the fuel in the oil. I did a on site test and the tester went off the scale with fuel in the oil. I sent the oil sample in, I'm just waiting for the results. It's weird, I had the truck warming up about a week ago, when I came out I smelt a funny burning type of smell. Hard to explain. But I'm not sure if it's some how related but my truck hasn't had blue smoke in over a week! Thats the longest it has ever gone! Mileage is still under 10 but I'm keeping a eye on it. I'm going to try a road trip to check the mileage on the hwy. I'll set the cruise at 65 and see what happens. I hear of these guys on here getting 20mpg! I'll keep you posted. Andy.
 
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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well all i was wondering is about oil and i see that if you ask about oil you get everyone 2 cents on life WOW.

what are the api ratings amsoil is the same as the motorcraft.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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This is not about oil but since it was in theis thread, I can not understand why our American manufacturers can come out with a good looking car, hold back production and let the Dealers jack the hell out of the prices..The PT comes to mind first (eventho they all over the road now) the SSR Chev (truck?) which is about $20K overpriced and now the new Chev HHR none on the road and huge dealer mark up...I'm sure the Pontiac Sostice will be the same. If the Pontiac GTO was $10K less we would see some of them too...My .$02....Good Luck
 
Old Dec 19, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006f350fx4
well all i was wondering is about oil and i see that if you ask about oil you get everyone 2 cents on life WOW.

what are the api ratings amsoil is the same as the motorcraft.
My Amsoil dealer, which was my auto shop teacher back in the day, went 70k plus miles on his 15w-40 oil. He had a cummins with a dual remote oil filter system. He sampled the oil every 3k miles when he changed his oil filters and it kept saying "keep in service". I don't know much about API ratings but I think that speaks for it self! I would say the oil is pretty good. Andy.
 
Old Dec 19, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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I used it in my Cummins for a few years. I've never had a oil analysis come back (and I use a totally independent-from-amsoil lab) showing any problems. I was able to run 15k between oil changes on the Cummins without a bypass system, the oil was coming back from the lab still good for use. My 2 gasoline cars run all year on one Amsoil oil change and the samples come back from the lab fine. Yes, our Fords are different and if/when I decide to switch my 6.0 over to synthetic I will establish a change interval based on hard data (oil analysis).

I am not an amsoil dealer, will never be one, nor do I know any amsoil dealers, I do like their products though. The fact that they're a MLM company is totally irrelevant in regard to the product itself. Dish Network is a MLM company too, big deal, my satellite TV channels have come in just fine for 10 years now with zero problems.

There's a lot of good oils out there to include most of the modern dino oils (Delo, Delvac, Rotella etc) but if you're looking to go syn you have a lot of good choices there too. IMO go ahead and test a couple and see which you like better based on actual performance in YOUR rig (via oil anaysis).

Take care guys.
 
Old Dec 19, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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I wish you all the best of Amsoil luck and truely hope that you never have a need to excerise their warranty claim.
Personally, I don't care if someone uses oil slurry puddling in the sand pits of Saudi Arabia ...It is Ford's API certified statements that may potentionaly void your engine warranty....if you ever have one fail.

On a side note, I can not imagine why anyone that would spend $40,000 - $ 60,000 on a vehicle and then quibble about changing oil at the recommened mfg intervals. Are you saving money? That alone can void your engine warranty should it fail. 15,000 miles? 25,000 miles? Any mfg would jump on that like white on rice to void an engine warranty upon failure.

Risking a few hundred lifetime oil change $$$ to a $ 13,000 to $ 15,000 engine. And to make matters worse, many really think Amsoil will replace the engine for you.

Well, again, good luck.
 
Old Dec 19, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kw5413
I wish you all the best of Amsoil luck and truely hope that you never have a need to excerise their warranty claim.
Personally, I don't care if someone uses oil slurry puddling in the sand pits of Saudi Arabia ...It is Ford's API certified statements that may potentionaly void your engine warranty....if you ever have one fail.

On a side note, I can not imagine why anyone that would spend $40,000 - $ 60,000 on a vehicle and then quibble about changing oil at the recommened mfg intervals. Are you saving money? That alone can void your engine warranty should it fail. 15,000 miles? 25,000 miles? Any mfg would jump on that like white on rice to void an engine warranty upon failure.

Risking a few hundred lifetime oil change $$$ to a $ 13,000 to $ 15,000 engine. And to make matters worse, many really think Amsoil will replace the engine for you.

Well, again, good luck.
Well I change my oil at 4-5k miles when using Amsoil. Depends on hours and use. Money isn't a huge issue with me. If I had proof another oil was better I would use it. I've been racing with it and using it in my cars and trucks for over 14yrs. No need for warranty yet, knock on wood! I'm sure there are many other good oils also. As far as motor craft oil being better? I don't think so. If anyone wants to put up the money I'll run both oils for 4k miles and send them into a independant lab for results! Any takers??? If Amsoil loses I'll pay for everything! Andy.
 
Old Dec 19, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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KW,

I hear what you are saying and you have a valid viewpoint, and I respect that. People do need to know they may be putting their warranty in jeopardy if they go against any number of things mother Ford doesn't endorse. However, the choice in oil is so far down the list of "problem producers" in regard to warranty denials it's not even on the map. How many people have suffered oil related (any brand) 6.0 failures i.e. when's the last time someone was on the board here posting that Ford voided their warranty because they used x brand of oil or when's the last time someone posted they had a major mechanical failure that was oil related?

If we want to be informative in regard to warranty protection the big issue we should be talking about is aftermarket chips (not choice of oil), after all that's what is causing tons of people to have their warranties voided (like it or not or "legal" or not it's happening).

The only reason I posted is because I don't like how some people on the board jump in and belittle folks like clockwork any time Amsoil is mentioned.

On a side note nobody says just because you use a synthetic you have to run longer than a manufacturors mileage recommendation, some folks just like the warm-fuzzy they get from running sythetic (good on them). My other vehicles are out of warranty and my Cummins was out of warranty when I starting running extended drain intervals. The proof is in the pudding though, if you have a valid oil sampling regimine you KNOW whether the oil you're running is fit for use or not.

Take care
 

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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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Not that I really care what anybody runs for lube in their truck - it's their business - but my question is, how will Ford know that the oil in the truck isn't API certified to the correct rating?

FWIW, I use Shell Rotella-T dino or Delo 400 depending upon what kind of price I find at the local auto stores / Costco.
 



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