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well, your better in the snow with a open diff, so theres a start. the next thing is not to romp on it. when you get on it, you break traction, and spin. next thing is some weight, not to much you cant control it well, but enough for traction. now all of that is free, the next thing is tires. get some good ones that are reputable. hope this helps.
i agree with everything you say...my problem is when i get stuck, for whatever reason i do get stuck....originally my post started with those emergency chains asking if they helped get you out...now since i find those don't necessarily work and since i can drive with chains legally, i guess ill start asking what are some hints/tips of getting unstuck, once stuck...
thanks
chris
aw come on raw, dont you know he used to use these when he was an expeditionist in the antarctic?
hahaha forgot sorry
Originally Posted by chrono4
well, your better in the snow with a open diff, so theres a start. the next thing is not to romp on it. when you get on it, you break traction, and spin. next thing is some weight, not to much you cant control it well, but enough for traction. now all of that is free, the next thing is tires. get some good ones that are reputable. hope this helps.
if you arent turning then its always better to have a locker because you are increasing traction... now if you turn you do not want a locker in snow or ice or on dry ground... unless you are pro, then you are intentionally screwing with things...
well yeah, a locker is great for goin straight, but where do you see most people in the ditches? on corners, because the rear end came around, and a locker will make this worse.
i know it is legal to drive on snow covered roads with chains....but my roads vary...i live in the country = snow...drive the the highway = clear. after the highway for 30 miles, i jump back into the country which sometimes has snow, sometimes doesn't. the two parts of the trip that are country are bad roads and deeeeep ditches. i do this 4 times a week...can't really put those chains on and off every day and take them off and put them on twice per trip...well i can i guess but who would want to do that.
I grew up in Buffalo. I've driven through a LOT of snow. I never saw a single vehicle with chains on it until I moved to California. No one ever used them in the northeast. I also never, ever got stuck once in any of the two wheel drive pickups I had. Good snow tires and some weight in the bed are the key. If it's so bad out that you still get stuck, you're either a bad winter driver or you shouldn't have gone out to begin with.
good recap. do you know what we are tyalking about
I have likely used tire chains longer and in more extreme conditons than most posters here. I keep a set of tires mounted on rims with chains all ready on them and tight so I can mount them on a plow truck in about 10 minutes or less with air tools and a big floor jack at home/shop if I have some extreme conditions to deal with that 4 studded snow tires will not handle.
I use Z cable chains on my wreckers. They are easier to install and remove and you make better ground speed with them on. And they don't eat your tires.
I grew up in Buffalo. I've driven through a LOT of snow. I never saw a single vehicle with chains on it until I moved to California. No one ever used them in the northeast. I also never, ever got stuck once in any of the two wheel drive pickups I had. Good snow tires and some weight in the bed are the key. If it's so bad out that you still get stuck, you're either a bad winter driver or you shouldn't have gone out to begin with.
There are many places (like the Seattle area) that don't usually see much snow, so it doesn't make much sense to put on snow tires for the winter, but occasionally we can get some significant amount of snow for a few days. Also, when traveling over the Cascades, chains are often required, and sometimes this is actually *enforced*. BTW, did you have steep hills in Buffalo?
i would like to consider myself a good driver...and your right if i drive safely, i should be fine....but what about the times, for instance if i have to pull over when meeting a car on the road and get over into something that grabs me (the road from my house to the highway drifts and usually consists of one lane down the middle and 5 inches of snow and ice on either side, with 2-3 foot deep ditches below this snow)...if i get stuck, what are some tips to get out?
A shovel and a bag of gravel for quick applications, and/or a set of cables/chains for worse stucks. I always keep a set of snow cables in my truck, though I haven't have to use it in like 2 years.
Last edited by aurgathor; Dec 21, 2005 at 02:39 PM.