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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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This is good info. But do yall think the problem I described in the first post is because its still venting internally or because I have a leak someware around the area. This greasy grit i described was only on the Y pipe but thick and all over it. From what I can tell its never seen any soap and water under that hood.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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yep, most likely. the oily mist was going through the turbo, intercooler, and eventually back to the 5-way intake horn. the oil probably accumulated at the joints, and was oozing out all over it. sime simplegreen to the rescue!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
yep, most likely. the oily mist was going through the turbo, intercooler, and eventually back to the 5-way intake horn. the oil probably accumulated at the joints, and was oozing out all over it. sime simplegreen to the rescue!
So your thinking that with a little TLC and a CCV mod I have nothing more here than a greasy mess. Should not worry about buying this used X for this reason.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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So your thinking that with a little TLC and a CCV mod I have nothing more here than a greasy mess. Should not worry about buying this used X for this reason.
these engines are very reliable if PROPERLY maintained. seems to be the heart of most mules i see at campgrounds towing big campers
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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look in one of my pictures in the posts above. notice the orange (they are black in the pics but are really orange) boots below the 5-way intake horn. my engine was COMPLETELY degreased and detailed when i looked at it at the auction. this is the only place where it wasn't cleaned, lol. all trucks that dont have the CCV mod, i can almost guarantee the boots will look like that.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
look in one of my pictures in the posts above. notice the orange (they are black in the pics but are really orange) boots below the 5-way intake horn. my engine was COMPLETELY degreased and detailed when i looked at it at the auction. this is the only place where it wasn't cleaned, lol. all trucks that dont have the CCV mod, i can almost guarantee the boots will look like that.
Strokin justed looked at your gallery how big a difference did thoes edge products make. Thinking Im going to go down that road as soon as I make a purchase.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
look in one of my pictures in the posts above. notice the orange (they are black in the pics but are really orange) boots below the 5-way intake horn. my engine was COMPLETELY degreased and detailed when i looked at it at the auction. this is the only place where it wasn't cleaned, lol. all trucks that dont have the CCV mod, i can almost guarantee the boots will look like that.
Couple questions for you I see in your pics you have a bolt labeled BLACK CLOUD.... What is that for? Also you have that brass piece on the MAP line..... What does that do? And as far as the CCV mod, I went out and looked at mine, and it is pretty oily.. Where does it vent to now? And what is the reason for it venting There? My question basically is why didn't ford vent it to the exhaust like you did? If you did leave it hang down, how much oil would you have oil leaking out of the hose? Thanks for the help I changed the O rings on the fuel bowl yesterday, and now I'm trying to be a mechanic LOL
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Couple questions for you I see in your pics you have a bolt labeled BLACK CLOUD.... What is that for? Also you have that brass piece on the MAP line..... What does that do? And as far as the CCV mod, I went out and looked at mine, and it is pretty oily.. Where does it vent to now? And what is the reason for it venting There? My question basically is why didn't ford vent it to the exhaust like you did? If you did leave it hang down, how much oil would you have oil leaking out of the hose? Thanks for the help I changed the O rings on the fuel bowl yesterday, and now I'm trying to be a mechanic LOL
I dont know all thoes answers obviously, its not my truck. But I bet the factory vents the crankcase internal because of emissions.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Couple questions for you I see in your pics you have a bolt labeled BLACK CLOUD.... What is that for? Also you have that brass piece on the MAP line..... What does that do? And as far as the CCV mod, I went out and looked at mine, and it is pretty oily.. Where does it vent to now? And what is the reason for it venting There? My question basically is why didn't ford vent it to the exhaust like you did? If you did leave it hang down, how much oil would you have oil leaking out of the hose? Thanks for the help I changed the O rings on the fuel bowl yesterday, and now I'm trying to be a mechanic LOL
-bolt labeled "blackcloud"? i do not reckon that one, you will have to right click on the picture, and click properties, and paste the URL to the pic, i dont know what you are talking about there.

-the brass piece is called a "dual relief valve". once the map sensor reads 23-24psi, it throws an overboost code (not normal on stock machines, normal on modified ones) and sends the engine into a defueling state until the boost is lowered to "safe" settings. this is regulated (by two springs) at 22psi, and once you go above, this will automatically open the valves and let excess boost out. since my boost pressure on my digital gauge is read from the regulated side of the valve, i will only see 23 pounds or so, when the engine is making up to 27-29 under the most stressful situations. i try not to let it go that high though, it is tough on the stock turbo.

-as you can see in some other pics of my CCV mod, i tied it into my exhaust. i welded a piece of 1'' pipe about 1 foot long, on an angle so it would not hit the driveshaft at bottomed-suspension, but would still create a low pressure drop at the end of the hose, as the exhaust flow was travelling past it, it will suck the gases out. like 4x4 van man said, the reason why they "recycle" the gases is for emissions. some of the molecules in the oily mist are over the specified limits for emissions, and would make you fail (that is if you tied it into the exhaust, and did not vent it onto the ground.)
by the way, i did have it vented below the fuel tank, but i hated the fog cloud coming out from under the truck. it is a heavy mist at idle, but it will not stick to the hose (at least what i used) and make oil drops on the ground.

to 4x4vanman- the products work very well. i have made up my mind, and i am going to keep the tuner (evolution) for code reading, and sell the attitude/juice, in favor of a custom-burnt chip that will modify the transmission settings. i am too scared to hurt my transmission with the edge products, even though i have the sonnax/springs kit. PM me if you are interested in a near-new Juice/Attitude system
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Thank you for the in depth explanation. So besides being messy under the hood, is there another reason the valve should be moved?
Here is the picture I was talking about
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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that is the air intake heater (AIH) delete plug. the AIH coil took up about 30% of the tract, and it hurt airflow. it has no purpose really, and it was only $10. some just cut the element off and screw back in the good part.

the oil accumulates on the silicone boots, and will eventually enable them to pop off under boosting conditions. let your mind wander through all the possibilities.

there is a post on this page or the second page (today) that is about a guy who had a boot pop off, they do make loud bangs and sound horrible. there is a dent in the hood from where a boot popped off and the screw clamp hit the hood and ripped through the insulation, on our 2004 6.0.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Read a post somewhere that mentioned to run the vent hose vertical then horizontal over brake mastercylinder then down...the idea was to allow the oil to drain back into the CC. Trying to avoid little oill puddles in driveway.
You could just get a crankcase filter for it. I know what you mean though, I don't want to run an open CCV either.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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You could just get a crankcase filter for it. I know what you mean though, I don't want to run an open CCV either.
Yeah...i saw one at DI for $257.00 +++...ouch!
http://www.dieselinnovations.com/di....products&cat=8
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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Whoa, couldn't you use one meant for a big block or something?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Both my intake boots(the orange ones) were replaced today for leaking....
They (the dealer) said they were so saturated they leaked all over..
2003 7.3 26K miles only..
I am amazed how much oil can be sucked thru the intake.....
Does all that blowby oil not cause any problems???
 
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