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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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Hello all, my temp gauge wont get to opperating temp no more. It only makes it to half way between the cold mark and the n in normal. Does this mean that the thermostat is stuck open? If I need to get a new one, what is the temp its supposed to be at? I was reading something a while back about a 205* thermostat, is this stock?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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i think stock it is 192*. a lot of folks upgrade to a 203*.
is this just since the cold weather started? our trucks run cool in the winter. take it for a 20 minute hwy drive and see what it does.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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It was about 20 degrees when I left work last night and with my grill covered I just touched the N after 15 miles. I had it plugged in all night started it up and let it idle for about a half an hour before I left . It was a little past the N when I left but dropped even with the grill blocked.

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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 1996pwrstrk
It was about 20 degrees when I left work last night and with my grill covered I just touched the N after 15 miles. I had it plugged in all night started it up and let it idle for about a half an hour before I left . It was a little past the N when I left but dropped even with the grill blocked.

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thanks dave....my point exactly
 
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Yep, you need a new thermostat. SOunds like it was warmer before you started it. When its -10 or colder , seems like idling longer than 10 min. is a waste of fuel as it wont get any warmer until you drive.

Right now all you guys in the mid west are getting our cold weather. Its been in the 40s up here in AK. Tshirt weather!!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Thanks guys. I think I'll block the radiator first. If that dont help I'll change the thermostat.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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Hey stroker, I have a 86 dually with a 6.9. It was my first diesel and it always ran cold in the winter. I put in a NAPA thermostat and it wasnt much different. Had to block the radiator completely at -30 and the temp was always goofy but I got by. Finally went to ford and got a Motorcraft thermostat. It has worked like a charm ever since. Even at -40. If you get one go OEM.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 01:30 AM
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I tried the cardboard over 3/4 of the rad, speeds 60 to 75 mph for 45 miles,and the temp outside today was 60*. Never even reached the n in the normal. Going to replace thermostat and flush.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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I have a 97 F-250 7.3 and it has always ran cold. I have replaced the water pump and put in a Napa thermostat and it still runs cool. It runs between the cold mark and the N most of the time even on 2 2 1/2 hr. hwy drives. Could the be affecting engine performance and fuel mileage? I only get about 13 to 14 mpg. all the time interstate or not. Any suggestions??
 
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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Mine's the same, gauge is at the "N" no matter how far or how fast i drive, outside temps have been from 72 to 32. I still get avg. 20 mpg, though.

Also, I heard somewhere that one should not block the radiator partially, say 3/4, because the remaining airflow will be twisting your cooling fan unevenly especially at high speeds, resulting in waterpump bearing failure. Don't know if this is true in our engines.
 

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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ksaundersjr
I have a 97 F-250 7.3 and it has always ran cold. I have replaced the water pump and put in a Napa thermostat and it still runs cool. It runs between the cold mark and the N most of the time even on 2 2 1/2 hr. hwy drives. Could the be affecting engine performance and fuel mileage? I only get about 13 to 14 mpg. all the time interstate or not. Any suggestions??
This sounds like a thermostat problem. Yes, in the winter depending on how cold it is, the truck will run slightly cooler than it will in the summertime. My trucks temp gauge at operating temps, the needle just touches the N to slightly below the N. Sorry, but I've never been an enthusiast of NAPA parts. I'd go with a OEM thermostat or the 203* thermostat. If you go to dieselsite.com (sorry, they're not a sponsor so I can't post a useable link), go to dieselsite parts in the categories, they have a good write-up on the 203* thermostat. I would also recommend one of their billet aluminum thermostat housings as the Ford thermostat housing is poorly/cheaply made and is almost considered a one time use part. I'd hate to see you have a leak there after going through the trouble of replacing the thermostat. I plan on installing these items myself when the weather warms up.

As far as the low mpg, that seems a little low, but this is also winter blend diesel fuel time, so it's not a good time to judge. The thermostat might help some. There are a lot of factors that go into mpg, I'd suggest doing a search on "mpg" on this forum and the 99-03 forum. You'll probably get tons of reading.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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I get the poor mileage no matter the time of the year. This mileage has been typical for almost two years now. I am reading about the EBPV and how it is affecting mileage.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 12:38 AM
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203* thermostat and new housing sounds good. Thanks for the site Stroker2. I would of never thought to change the housing.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 12:51 AM
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A 203* thermostat could bring 1-4 mpg. Wow
 
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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941/2 stroker does your truck blow heat or cold air? could be just the gauge just a thought my 96 always runs at between zilch and n lets face it the stock gauges on our trucks are really just dummy lights maybe try hooking up a true coolant gauge just to be sertan W.S
 
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