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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 12:43 AM
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Question Is my 4x4 Working right ???

I just picked up an 85 F150 w/manual lockout hubs.

I had my first chance to "really" use the 4 wheel drive tonight during this heavy snow we just got.

Anyways, when I locked in the hubs and engauged the transfer case to 4 wheel High, everything "seems" to feel/sound OK.

However, when I went into an unplowed parking lot to test it, the rear wheels spun and the truck fish-tailed like it was still in 2WD mode. It DID kinda "feel" like the front wheels were pulling, but I'm NOT certain.

How can I verify if my front axle/hubs/transfer case ARE WORKING right while in 4WD mode ??


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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 07:10 AM
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Easiest way is to have someone watch the front end in snow/mud and see if either of the front tires spin when you goose the engine
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Your 4x4, when engaged, is probably working just fine, but if you don't have a limited slip rear axle, the rear wheel with the least traction will "spin" and the truck will fish tail if you accelerate to quickly.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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This is a sure fire way to find out but has its disadvantages. Go to a place with deep snow. Turn the wheel to the right, stick your head out the window and stomp on the gas. If you get a face full of snow, its working. I'm sure almost everyone has done something like this to make sure.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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This is a sure fire way to find out but has its disadvantages. Go to a place with deep snow. Turn the wheel to the right, stick your head out the window and stomp on the gas. If you get a face full of snow, its working.
Well, I didn't get a face full of snow and didn't notice the front tires spinning at all.

Does this mean the hubs are shot ?? If so, wouldn't there be some kind of noise(s) if they were bad ??
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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It could be the hubs or the transfer case. The hubs are easiest to check, just pull them out. If there's a lot of fine metal particles in there, they're dead. You can also manually actuate them and see if they lock.

Another way to check is to put the rear on jackstands and put it 4x4. If it drives off the jackstands, it works fine.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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Since you just picked up this truck, maybe you should take a look underneath to make sure it has a front driveshaft.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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Since you just picked up this truck, maybe you should take a look underneath to make sure it has a front driveshaft.
I did that BEFORE I bought it.

How does one check out the front hubs to see if they are good or not ??
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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Hey, no offense. I didn't look to see if my truck had a front driveshaft before I bought it. (There were plenty of other problems to look at.)

If you don't like the other suggestions, you could drop the rear driveshaft and see if it drives in 4H.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 12:47 AM
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Lock the hubs, crawl under, and try and spin the driveshaft, with the tranny in 2 hi, it should not spin. then un lock, and it should spin.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 02:01 AM
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you check the t case the same general way as ryanmiller said to check the hubs.with the hubs on free,and t case in 2wd,try to turn the front driveshaft,it should turn by hand.then with the hubs still on free,shift the t case into 4 high and try to turn the front drive shaft,it should not spin by hand.do it again but shift the t case to 4 low,the front shaft should not spin by hand.-billy
 
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:40 AM
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If all else fails as has been suggested by our Forum colleagues, if you have a T/C with a chain drive it may be either broken or not there at all.
That means a reno of the doings in the T/C.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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i have to agree with trying to spin the front driveshaft with the axles locked in, the hubs have an aluminum gear that is designed to be the weak point and break before anything else, i've blown out dozens, you can normally find spare ones at the junk yard for a dollar or two
 
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 02:03 AM
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If it turns out to be the hubs, but nothing looks wrong with them, make sure there isn't too much grease, and make sure everything moves ok.Cold weather will make things stick. The hubs on my 85 worked fine until I decided to regrease them, then the next time i went out they would disengage and start popping when they had any load on them. I bought new Warn premium hubs anyways.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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Nobody mentioned this, but wouldn't doing this in snow let the front tires spin easily?
 
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