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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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What's the Best Programmer

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What is the best Programmer for my 2005 Supercrew? Hypertech Powerprogrammer? Hypertech Power module? Superchips? Others?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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What is the best Programmer for my 2005 Supercrew? Hypertech Powerprogrammer? Hypertech Power module? Superchips? Others?
More than happy with my Diablosport Predator.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 08:14 AM
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Its not only the insturment (tuning device) used in tuning your truck, rather it is the "Tuner" (person writting the tunes into the device) that makes the difference. For custom tunes written specifically for "your" vehicle and driving style call <!-- 540-862-9515 --> and get the answers.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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That's pure baloney on a mechanically stock truck (intakes don't count either).

No such thing as a custom tune, just tunes that are written for a particular computer code, and then sold as custom, when in fact it's the same setup that joe schmoe has down the street.

Which would you rather have, A tune that was supposedly written just for your truck (which is still not true), or a bank of performance tunes written for a vast variety of computer codes (which are all optimized) in the palm of your hand which would allow you to jump from truck to truck along with all the other goodies that come with a tuner?

Sounds like a typical tune dealer sales pitch to me.

Owned way to many chips and tuners over a varitey of motors, gas and diesel to be buffaloed by such a statement.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Hahahahahaha....................clueless
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Hypertech tuner is ultra easy to install, gives you a great ride with an intake tube and Magnaflow muffler installed, great "pro like" shifting of the transmission, plus using the 87oct tune gave me 10 to 15 more HP, and surprsingly gained .3 MPG!!!! Love it LIVE BABY!!!!!!!!

Love it LIVE BABY!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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That's pure baloney on a mechanically stock truck (intakes don't count either).

No such thing as a custom tune, just tunes that are written for a particular computer code, and then sold as custom, when in fact it's the same setup that joe schmoe has down the street.

Which would you rather have, A tune that was supposedly written just for your truck (which is still not true), or a bank of performance tunes written for a vast variety of computer codes (which are all optimized) in the palm of your hand which would allow you to jump from truck to truck along with all the other goodies that come with a tuner?

Sounds like a typical tune dealer sales pitch to me.

Owned way to many chips and tuners over a varitey of motors, gas and diesel to be buffaloed by such a statement.

Are you serious????

"Custom Tuning" is just that. Programs written specifically for your truck.
It is apparant you know nothing about this issue, so spending my time attempting to educate you would be fruitless and in vain. Go ahead and use whatever "Generic" tuning you decide to. But for me and my vehicles, I will continue to go with dyno-proven custom tuning, written especially for MY truck.
Just a little info. for you to ponder over though. I was involved in dynoing 3 vehicles with the same ECM and not one of them had the same A/F's in the stock configuration. They ranged from 14.8 to almosty 16.0 which is "LEAN" and will surely cause some premature damage over time. With aftermarket "CUSTOM" tuning all 3 of these vehicles were brought back into the range of 12.6 to 12.9 which is where they should be. If you know anything about making power you know that by doing so that all 3 were able to make more power by adding fuel.. And one more question, " If you buy a generic tuner that has been set for maximum performance, would you want to pull a trailer with the shift points set where they would be on that tuner without any torque reduction being programmed for that purpose?? Good bye transmission... I could go on and on but it would be useless...Good luck with your generic tuning...
 
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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Quick,

What type of tuner are you suggesting?

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CMOS
 
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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You've dynoed 3 vehicles and got different readings with the same ecu code.

Big deal.

I can create different readings from the same truck, same tune, on different dyno pulls. Does it mean any thing? Nope.

Just a difference in a few degrees of ambient temps can affect hp, so can tranny condition, oil viscositiy, air filter loading, etc, etc.

If you think for one minute your little dyno experince has any relavance in relation motor longevity or to tuning, I've got plenty of ocean front property for sale in SD.

Oh BTW, those numbers that you read are adjusted by the ECM due to the drivers habits, and that alone makes it comparing apples to oranges. Yep, I must not have a clue, heh, heh.

The F150's 5.4L couldn't possibly put out enough power without major motor work to fry a tranny under a reccomended max trailer weight even with a so called hot custom tune, only driver error would fry that tranny (towing OD, poor fluid change schedules, etc). Most tuners alow you to adjust parameters of the tranny any way, no different than and other chip tuner would do.

Now if you wanna talk about a motor that could toast trannys at will, you should have seen the 7.3L PSD I traded in on this rig.

Again, not my first rodeo.

Any name brand tuner or chip will be more than enough for Joe Stocktruck, and will offer tech support, warranties, and free updates (diablo predator), and those tunes will be backed up by several engineers, testing, and R+D. This cannot be said about the custom shops, who often use your truck as their test bed, and it's you that forks out the dough when your motor fries.

Now if you want to talk about tuning in realation to built motors, that's fine, but lets not try to say that the run of the mill stock truck is something special enough to warrant custom tuning.
 

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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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I did not post my previous statement for sake of arguement. I only stated the facts as I see them. My 30+years building and tuning engines from your basic everyday gasoline up too and including methonal and nitromethane engines for a major NHRA Funnycar Team, and my 20+ years with Ford Motor Company, including a stretch in Power Train do not count I guess. Nor my affiliation with one of the Worlds top aftermarket F150 Tuning Specialists who has over 14 years tuning and R&D'ing these trucks, not only for himself but for possibly the largest Aftermarket tuning Company in the world carries means nothing either.
Go ahead and use whatever tuning device, and whatever generic tuning you personally prefer, after all its your truck and definately your $$, so what you do is totally up to you.
Someone ask a question and I attempted to answer them to the best of my professional ability..
 
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Hi quik have you checked out this sites sponsors? or even see this section?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/f...splay.php?f=46



Just wondering.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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My first post and I would like to know more, Quick.

Anyone else in the frey, I'd be willing to hear your points also.

I just picked up my first Ford Truck. It is a 04 Lariat Scab 4x4, 5.4L. I'm looking to do some mods and a programmer is at the top of my list.
 

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Super Gater Wecome to FTE checkout this link for tons of info regarding tuners...https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/f...splay.php?f=46
 
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Quik Truk
I did not post my previous statement for sake of arguement. I only stated the facts as I see them. My 30+years building and tuning engines from your basic everyday gasoline up too and including methonal and nitromethane engines for a major NHRA Funnycar Team, and my 20+ years with Ford Motor Company, including a stretch in Power Train do not count I guess. Nor my affiliation with one of the Worlds top aftermarket F150 Tuning Specialists who has over 14 years tuning and R&D'ing these trucks, not only for himself but for possibly the largest Aftermarket tuning Company in the world carries means nothing either.
Go ahead and use whatever tuning device, and whatever generic tuning you personally prefer, after all its your truck and definately your $$, so what you do is totally up to you.
Someone ask a question and I attempted to answer them to the best of my professional ability..
Apparently all that "experience" you and your affiliates have hasn't done a thing for your professionalism since you've completely ignored our guidelines, pushing a company you're affiliated with with pretty much every post here. I can't vouche one way or another for your tuning ability... but your line about a/f ratios is laughable unless your pal intends to ship a dyno with his tunes to check out his mail order clients ratios.
 
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