What's the Best Programmer
What is the best Programmer for my 2005 Supercrew? Hypertech Powerprogrammer? Hypertech Power module? Superchips? Others?
No such thing as a custom tune, just tunes that are written for a particular computer code, and then sold as custom, when in fact it's the same setup that joe schmoe has down the street.
Which would you rather have, A tune that was supposedly written just for your truck (which is still not true), or a bank of performance tunes written for a vast variety of computer codes (which are all optimized) in the palm of your hand which would allow you to jump from truck to truck along with all the other goodies that come with a tuner?
Sounds like a typical tune dealer sales pitch to me.
Owned way to many chips and tuners over a varitey of motors, gas and diesel to be buffaloed by such a statement.
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No such thing as a custom tune, just tunes that are written for a particular computer code, and then sold as custom, when in fact it's the same setup that joe schmoe has down the street.
Which would you rather have, A tune that was supposedly written just for your truck (which is still not true), or a bank of performance tunes written for a vast variety of computer codes (which are all optimized) in the palm of your hand which would allow you to jump from truck to truck along with all the other goodies that come with a tuner?
Sounds like a typical tune dealer sales pitch to me.
Owned way to many chips and tuners over a varitey of motors, gas and diesel to be buffaloed by such a statement.
Are you serious????
"Custom Tuning" is just that. Programs written specifically for your truck.
It is apparant you know nothing about this issue, so spending my time attempting to educate you would be fruitless and in vain. Go ahead and use whatever "Generic" tuning you decide to. But for me and my vehicles, I will continue to go with dyno-proven custom tuning, written especially for MY truck.
Just a little info. for you to ponder over though. I was involved in dynoing 3 vehicles with the same ECM and not one of them had the same A/F's in the stock configuration. They ranged from 14.8 to almosty 16.0 which is "LEAN" and will surely cause some premature damage over time. With aftermarket "CUSTOM" tuning all 3 of these vehicles were brought back into the range of 12.6 to 12.9 which is where they should be. If you know anything about making power you know that by doing so that all 3 were able to make more power by adding fuel.. And one more question, " If you buy a generic tuner that has been set for maximum performance, would you want to pull a trailer with the shift points set where they would be on that tuner without any torque reduction being programmed for that purpose?? Good bye transmission... I could go on and on but it would be useless...Good luck with your generic tuning...
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Big deal.
I can create different readings from the same truck, same tune, on different dyno pulls. Does it mean any thing? Nope.
Just a difference in a few degrees of ambient temps can affect hp, so can tranny condition, oil viscositiy, air filter loading, etc, etc.
If you think for one minute your little dyno experince has any relavance in relation motor longevity or to tuning, I've got plenty of ocean front property for sale in SD.
Oh BTW, those numbers that you read are adjusted by the ECM due to the drivers habits, and that alone makes it comparing apples to oranges. Yep, I must not have a clue, heh, heh.
The F150's 5.4L couldn't possibly put out enough power without major motor work to fry a tranny under a reccomended max trailer weight even with a so called hot custom tune, only driver error would fry that tranny (towing OD, poor fluid change schedules, etc). Most tuners alow you to adjust parameters of the tranny any way, no different than and other chip tuner would do.
Now if you wanna talk about a motor that could toast trannys at will, you should have seen the 7.3L PSD I traded in on this rig.
Again, not my first rodeo.
Any name brand tuner or chip will be more than enough for Joe Stocktruck, and will offer tech support, warranties, and free updates (diablo predator), and those tunes will be backed up by several engineers, testing, and R+D. This cannot be said about the custom shops, who often use your truck as their test bed, and it's you that forks out the dough when your motor fries.
Now if you want to talk about tuning in realation to built motors, that's fine, but lets not try to say that the run of the mill stock truck is something special enough to warrant custom tuning.
Last edited by superrangerman2002; Dec 4, 2005 at 11:51 AM.
Go ahead and use whatever tuning device, and whatever generic tuning you personally prefer, after all its your truck and definately your $$, so what you do is totally up to you.
Someone ask a question and I attempted to answer them to the best of my professional ability..
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/f...splay.php?f=46
Just wondering.
Anyone else in the frey, I'd be willing to hear your points also.
I just picked up my first Ford Truck. It is a 04 Lariat Scab 4x4, 5.4L. I'm looking to do some mods and a programmer is at the top of my list.
Last edited by supergator; Dec 4, 2005 at 07:20 PM. Reason: Mistype
Go ahead and use whatever tuning device, and whatever generic tuning you personally prefer, after all its your truck and definately your $$, so what you do is totally up to you.
Someone ask a question and I attempted to answer them to the best of my professional ability..





